KISS- why not retire??
 

I think KISS should retire. The phony Peter and Ace take lame to a higher new level. And Gene $immons doesn't even like rock music, he likes money.

This statement could have been made in 1981 & still been true

yes, I agree. 1981 was a low point for KISS, but KISS did OWN the 1970s.
No band was bigger than KISS, save for maybe ABBA and Zeppelin.

But seriously, I think KISS is at the lowest point in their career, right now.
2 phonies pretending to be Peter and Ace kind of sum it all up.

But I could name at least 100 better ones

in your opinion.

I like KISS...To a degree, i really like Love Gun.

But i agree with Urban that the 70s had tons of better bands.



..................Half of them were prog bands. ;)

In your opinion there was better bands.

The fact is there were very few bands who are more influential than KISS in the 1970s.

start naming them. (aside from ABBA and Zeppelin)

I'm interested in hearing who these 'tons of better bands' are.
Let's see if their influence is greater than KISS.

1. Kraftwerk

I`ll let someone else name the other 99 , i`m drunk

Kraftwerk??

you're joking, right?

1. Kraftwerk (even though I have no clue how it is)
2. David Bowie
3. Talking Heads
4. Television
5. Frank Zappa
6 Grateful Dead
7. The Eagles
8. Aerosmith
9. New York Dolls
10. Lou Reed,
11. Boston
12. Tom Petty
13. ZZ Top
14. Marvin Gaye.
15. Pink Floyd
16.The Ramones
17. Queen
18. The Clash
19. The Sex Pistols
20. Buzzcockss
21. The Cure

I don't know crap about the 70s, but there was way better 70s artists then Kiss.

in your opinion.

The best bands of the 70s were the ones opening up the show for KISS.

RUSH
The Scorpions
Aerosmith
Black Sabbath
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
AC/DC
Bob Segar
Cheap Trick
Johnny Winter
Ted Nugent

et al. all opened for KISS

Well who`s opinion do you think we`re referring to , Kofi Annans ?

Wasn't Sabbath, Doors, Beatles, Stones, Who, Skynyrd, Clapton all going in the 70s? But we all know Kiss pwnz them in influenciality and skill and are just better!

So, KISS is better then all the bands I listed and those bands because they opened for KISS? I see, and I suppose Gene Simmons ownz David Bowie also?

all 60s bands cept fro Skinnard. Not 70s.
you're in the wrong decade

thats right. No servant is greater than his master.

^lol k, KISS are more talented and influencial then then Rush.

Wasn't Led Zeppelin's first album released in 69? Even if they did have work in the 70s going by your logic, the weren't a 70s bands.

can you translate into English, please?

Wasn't Led Zeppelin's first album released in 69? Even if they did have work in the 70s going by your logic they weren't a 70s band.

I believe Zep I came out in 68.

Zep was the only rock band as big as KISS during the 1970s, and even then, KISS made way more cash than Zep. In 1978 KISS made 118 Million dollars.
No rock n roll band of their day can even compete on that scale.

The biggest things of the 1970s were

KISS, ABBA, Led Zeppelin and Star Wars.

Sorry, but the bands you listed dont even come close.

:laughing:

Okay, so how much records a band sold decides how influencial and talented they were? Jeez Britney Spears must be one of the most influencial artists ever then!

^yes!!!!

I'd say KISSes longevity is proof enough of their influence.

Dimebag had Ace Frehley tatood on his chest, not Frank Zappa.

Kurt Cobain put a picture of KISS on the rear cover of Nevermind, not Lynrd Skinnard.

KISS is easily the most influential band of the 1970s, save for Led Zeppelin.
That's a fact. what you think of them is merely your opinion.

LOL k.
Simmons>>>Bowie.
Frehley>>>Hendrix.
KISS>>Rush

I get it, sorry for my ignorance on the subject. I now see how how much records a band sells proves their talent, and even though you rarely argued my posts just through more useless fun facts at me, you're still right. Once again I apologize.

I didn't say that.

RUSH opened for KISS.

KISS never opened for RUSH.

What does that prove?

that RUSH opened for KISS.

KISS didn't open for RUSH.

Its getting slightly annoying. How you really havn't argued any of the points i'm making and all you've done is thrown out stupid fun facts at me that don't prove anything.

but you have no argument. All you have is your opinion.

Okay you think KISS sucks. So What?

The fact is they are the most influential band of the 1970s, aside from Led Zeppelin.

Your opinion really doesnt mean sqaut when it's facts we're discussing.

22. Led Zeppelin
23. The Who
24. Parliament/Funkadelic
25. Black Sabbath
26. Yes
27. King Crimson
28. The Doors
29. Fleetwood Mac
30. Jethro Tull
31. Velvet Underground
32. Big Star
33. The Stooges
34. Mott The Hoople
35. Lynyrd Skynyrd
36. T. Rex
37. Gentle Giant
38. Van Der Graaf Generator
39. Genesis
40. ELP
41. Steve Wonder
42. Elton John
43. The Damned
44. Blondie
45. Todd Rundgren
46. Gram Parsons
47. Allman Brothers Band
48. Mahavishnu Orchestra
49. Judas Priest
50. Deep Purple
51. Uriah Heep
52. The Moody Blues
53. John Lennon
54. Hawkwind
55. AC/DC
56. Rush
57. Van Halen
58. Thin Lizzy
59. Blue Oyster Cult
60. Heart
61. Richard Hell & The Voidoids
62. The Police
63. Elvis Costello
64. Sly And & The Family Stone
65. Tangerine Dream
66. Camel
67. Gong
68. The Band
69. Jeff Beck
70. Kate Bush
71. Roxy Music
72. Brian Eno
73. Bruce Springsteen
74. Captain Beefheart
75. Electric Light Orchestra
76. Meat Loaf
77. Creedence Clearwater Rivival
78. Bob Dylan
79. Bob Marley
80. Can
81. Chicago
82. Patti Smith
83. War
84. Modern Lovers
85. Cheap Trick
86. The Residents
87. Santana
88. Frank Zappa
89. Tom Waits
90. Neil Young
91. Magma
92. Al Green
93. Free
94. The Meters
95. Shouxie & The Banshees
96. James Taylor
97. Alice Cooper
98. Eric Clapton
99. Gang Of Four
100. Steely Dan

*sigh*

You're saying KISS and Led Zeppelin were more influencial and talented then Rush, Bowie, Talking Heads, Television, Zappa, Eagles, Grateful Dead, Aerosmith, Lou Reed, New York Dolls, Boston, Tom Petty, Marvin Gaye, Pink Floyd, Ramones, Sex Pistols, Queen, The Clash, The Cure and countless other artists. I've made points as to why they aren't all you've done is give me fun facts that don't prove you're original point. PLEASE tell me how I have no arguement?



EDIT: I love you booboo.

and that list proves what?

Yes I am saying KISS and Led Zeppelin were the most influential bands of the 1970s.
All you're discussing is who you like better. Big Deal.

The Talking Heads?
Dude, are you on crack?

^Yet you aren't prepared to back that up are you?


Are not allowed to do what the great ShadowSurfer asks now? Better bands can be proven regardless of what you think.

There is no use arguing with a KISS fanboi that they aren't the greatest band in the world. He will never see anything in any other light.

But anyone with common sense will tell you that KISS and Zeppelin arent even in the same league.

Zeppelin >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KISS.

I think Alex is right, theres no point to replying anymore we can't prove him wrong regardless of how many points we make and even if we do prove it he won't accept it.

Velvet Underground >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Led Zeppelin,

so, through the conversive property

Velvet Underground >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KIS S

I hate Zeppelin and I'll agree with that. Oh and I know you mentioned the boo boo but King Crimson FUKING PWNS KISS

I think Zeppelin do, compared to half of those mentioned at least.

KISS however are just ridiculously overrated, they were more popular for their image than their actual music.