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ladyislingering 12-28-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1399647)
They same could apply to almost any other popular band that has members in their sixties.

I'm thinking it's time for the Rolling Stones to say goodbye as well.

Soulflower 12-29-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1399647)
They same could apply to almost any other popular band that has members in their sixties.


But Rolling Stones, The Who etc were phenomenal musicians and songwriters and are still not that bad till this day. KISS was just gimmick band.

I think it is utterly ridiculous how they are being inducted but acts like WAR, Chic etc who were REAL musicians have been snubbed for years but then again the RHOF are pretty biased toward African American artists.

It took Donna Summer's passing for them to even induct her after snubbing her for over a decade

Paul Smeenus 12-29-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1400110)
KISS was just gimmick band.



I don't agree with this. KISS was good, straight-ahead rock music in their first few albums IMO.

Then came Beth.

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Unknown Soldier 12-29-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1400110)
But Rolling Stones, The Who etc were phenomenal musicians and songwriters and are still not that bad till this day. KISS was just gimmick band.

Disagree with that, as both those two bands should've turned it in years ago and are pretty embarrassing to watch. I saw the Who a couple of years ago performing live and Roger Daltrey sounded ****ing terrible.

As for songwriters, I'd say Paul Stanley was one of the most consistent songwriters of his generation.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-29-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1400120)

As for songwriters, I'd say Paul Stanley was one of the most consistent songwriters of his generation.

Plus he's written tons of material for other bands.

Soulflower 12-29-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1400120)
Disagree with that, as both those two bands should've turned it in years ago and are pretty embarrassing to watch. I saw the Who a couple of years ago performing live and Roger Daltrey sounded ****ing terrible.

As for songwriters, I'd say Paul Stanley was one of the most consistent songwriters of his generation.

Fair enough but they are superior musicians to KISS who were just average musicians.

Unknown Soldier 12-30-2013 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1400134)
Fair enough but they are superior musicians to KISS who were just average musicians.

You don't have to be a superior musician to play great songs, as has been proved countless times. For the record though, Ace Frehley has always been regarded as one of the greatest guitarists in metal and the below quote by him says it all really:

"I'm an anomaly, I'm an un-schooled musician, I don't know how to read music, but I'm one of the most famous guitar players in the world, so go figure."

Paul Smeenus 12-30-2013 02:27 AM

KISS may not have had high levels of instrumental proficiency, but they had outstanding meter (which is vastly more important in that straight-up style of rock). In fact after Ace left (after they nuked the fridge following the Destroyer album) for a short time he was replaced by a guitarist that *could* shred (Vinnie Vincent, who sadly had terrible substance abuse denons) and he didn't really work out.

Urban Hat€monger ? 12-30-2013 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1400134)
Fair enough but they are superior musicians to KISS who were just average musicians.

Who the hell listens to Kiss for musicianship?

Oxy 12-30-2013 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1400314)
Who the hell listens to Kiss for musicianship?

I am going to have to lie down. The shock of the fat chef guy saying something sensible has overwhelmed me.

When Kiss bugger off, perhaps the world will stop playing their crap noise once and for all.

They make Judas Priest look and sound like musicians, thats how **** Kiss have always been.


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