KISS- why not retire?? (metal, punk, genre, album, metallica)

jr. · 05-12-2006, 12:06 AM

No, I don't think it's going to blow up. These are intelligent debators, not the "you suck, no you suck" types.

What's taking BigRain so long?

Man, I have no life. LOL.

*EDIT* Oh well. As usual, I am slow on the trigger.

TheBig3 · 05-12-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

You have to be joking.

Do we all have to be joking? Thats like the third time in this thread you've said that. Ever think we're not joking and you're just the joke?

TheBig3 · 05-12-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.

No, I don't think it's going to blow up. These are intelligent debators, not the "you suck, no you suck" types.

What's taking BigRain so long?

Man, I have no life. LOL.

I was arming myself....

Urban Hat€monger ? · 05-12-2006, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo

You have to be joking.

Hell, when i first listened to VU&A i didn't even know what their image was, i just thought the music was great, and all the bands they influenced don't dress the way they do, but their sound has been imitated many times... When the critics praise them they don't go on about Lou Reeds sunglasse's or Nico's legs... How in the hell are they all about image?

So you think a band managed by Andy Warhol wasn`t about image in any way then.

Hmm OK I beleive you

jr. · 05-12-2006, 12:11 AM

Managed by Andy Warhol? That automatically pins image demerits on them, in my opinion. Warhol was probably one of the most image-bloated people to ever breathe in air.

boo boo · 05-12-2006, 12:12 AM

Why ELP?... Why can't you start with The Beatles and every other band that has created or influenced their own rock sub-genre?

You're just proving my point... You think all rock music should be the same, dumb 2 minute songs with a stolen riff that's about doing your best friends sister, why can't you show a little appreciation for variety?

jr. · 05-12-2006, 12:14 AM

Oh yeah? Well Green Day isn't punk.

boo boo · 05-12-2006, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

So you think a band managed by Andy Warhol wasn`t about image in any way then.

Hmm OK I beleive you

Theres more to their music than just Andy Worhol.... For a band that was "all about image" their record sales were extremely poor, and most of the people who actually did listen to VU&N ended up starting their own band, because they related to the music but at the same time their songs weren't technically challenging, it was a do it yourself kind of thing and people liked that, it wasn't just because of how they looked... If that was the case, what's the point in even having a band?

Herion, Venis In Furs, Femme Fetale, The Gift and Sister Ray are some of the most beloved songs of the 60s... Why do you think people like those songs?... Lou Reeds good taste in leather?

boo boo · 05-12-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jr.

Oh yeah? Well Green Day isn't punk.

I was talking to Big3, sorry if it seemed like i was talking to you.

And when did Green Day come into this discussion?

In fact, i'm still trying to figure out how ELP came into this discussion.

TheBig3 · 05-12-2006, 12:22 AM

ELP came into this discussion because that was the basis for Punk in general but also bands like Kiss who knew it wasn't about the convention of 70's radio, I choose a random band (which I actually meant ELO) but the point remains the same (did you see what I did there). Kiss didn't get it right because it was "stolen" riffs about sex, but because it was about passionate people who felt that people should be writting about what they knew, not what they read.

To this degree Kiss is closer to the 60's folk movement than the prog bands.

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jr. Seeker of Peace Join Date: May 2005 Location: Newark, De. Posts: 341	Managed by Andy Warhol? That automatically pins image demerits on them, in my opinion. Warhol was probably one of the most image-bloated people to ever breathe in air. __________________ Be strong then, and enter into your own body; there you have a solid place for your feet. ~ Kabir

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