jr.

How insightful.

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Frances

Never been a fan, can't doubt that lots are though.

I always thought from the look of them, they would play heavier stuff.

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TheBig3

Wow, once again not a damn responce since I said my peice. Wierd.

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shiftael

Kiss ovverrated, ahahahaha certainly not on this board!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not really by the critics, either for that mater..
No-one really gets past the makeup aspect of Kiss anyay they just automatically discredit that they make decent music when they see the makeup.

They never strayed?? Hmmm lets' not even bring up The Elder, or Dynasty, albeit most Kiss fans hate The Elder but it was vastly differnt then any other album they made..
And even Destroyer, for that matter!

ah well you can change us 'fanbioi's' minds and obviosuly arguing with the critics is like asking for lower gas prices in the US, ain't gonna happen, Kiss haters will always hate them no matter what

jr.

Sure, the Elder was their one stab at a concept album. Musically, it wasn't any different from any of their other albums. They simply tried to tell a srory with the songs. It wasn't a good time for the band, personel wise, either. Eric Carr palyed all the drums on the album, Peter Criss was essentially gone, even though his name appears on the credits.

Dynasty was their foray into the disco. Really, though, 'Sure Know Something'
and 'I Was Made For Lovin' You' were the only tracks on the album that hinted at Disco.

As far as Destroyer, it was, in fact, their best produced album up to that point. 'KISS', 'Hotter Than Hell', and 'Dressed To Kill' were all raw, and sparsely produced. With the huge sales of 'Alive', they were afforded the chance to put out a better produced album. Better produced, but not anything innovative or experimental, musically.

I stand by what I said. KISS never broke any ground, musically. They made their living with their live shows. I've seen plenty, in their prime, and on their reunion tour.

I will restate...I love KISS. I always have, I always will. But my love for them does not bleed over into my intelligence as a music fan. I won't be one of those knuckleheads who sits here shouting "KISS is the greatest band ever!!!", because they weren't. Not even close.

I just went and counted....I own 26 KISS cds, the majority of which I also owned on album. I have been a KISS fan since the mid 70's. I am not one to sing my own praises, but I am confident in saying, there's no one in here that is a bigger fan, or more of an authority on KISS than me.

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boo boo

I hope you're joking.

My main problem with KISS is that as far i'm concerned, they really didn't give a damn about music, they did it for the money and fame, they don't even try to hide it, Gene especially, and while this could be said about many artists, good artists still have to put some kind of effort into their music, KISS just do a bunch of songs Gene wrote in 5 minutes and release it as a single, there are thousands upon thousands of more musically talented musicians from every genre, sub-genre, sub-sub-genre and sub-sub-sub-genre i can think of.... They were mediocre musicians plain and simple, and while bands like Nirvana could make up for it with their songwriting, the same cannot be said of KISS, they wrote a few dumb anthems that while fun (in a drunken kind of way) i could have written them myself, the lyrics are so horrible that i sometimes i think they actually make them up as they go along... But since i don't have their makeup, no one could give a damn if i make better music or not... You think people go to see them live because of their music?... They aren't even that good live compared to their studio work, which is basically the same thing but with much better sound quality, in fact i would give the producers all the credit, not the actual band, just shows what studio magic can do for any random group of amateurs who want to make a quick buck, they don't improvise live, they just play their songs and follow the rules... People go to see them for their overproduced extravaganzas, laser lights, fireworks, whatever, their idea of being "experiemental" is doing disco tunes and writing songs with Michael Bolton... It's the fine line between being a musician and being a performer.... They were good performers but really crappy musicians who didn't do anything remotely original or creative, and they have sold out and ripped off their fans more times than any other band in history... And this is the band you choose to praise?

And this is all coming from someone who dosent mind KISS at all, seriously, but looking at it from a objective point of view, they just weren't that talented... And the only real quality behind their music is that it's kinda catchy... But if your dream of every rock band being like KISS came true, i would f*cking kill myself... You need to stop being so afraid of musicians who actually try to do something different, if people just kept playing the same old fashion rock n roll tunes over and over for a million years, it would get boring... That's one of my main problems with you, you choose to write off millions of bands that you haven't even heard as "sh*t" simply because you're not used to their style.

Overall i love how when someone makes a slight criticism of one of your precious rock n roll bands you have to have change the topic and have a pointless rant and start calling a whole genre of music crap (prog in this case) which is mighty hypocritical for you because you always give people sh*t for being off topic, DoC didn't do anything other than point out the pointlessness of this thread, and yet you have to freak out at him and insult him, look at yourself... Grow up.

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Frances

ha ha! here it comes......

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TheBig3

Uh, before I address the rest, let me just ask where you got Prog from. I tried to find it in there, and im not being a smartass, where is it.

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jr.

Watch out. He's arming himself.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

I still like their first 3 albums.

Funny how people slate them for saying they`re all image & no substance yet praise bands like The Velvet Underground , The New York Dolls & The Sex Pistols for the exact same thing.

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