Salami

You don't need to say things like that. If he was a prick, why did they keep him in the band for so long? Anyway, the question here is about talent. Both men were good at many different instruments, and this is what the question concerns.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Because originally it was his band.

You should read Andrew Loog Oldham's autobiography. Jones was given chance after chance after chance to sort himself out, by the end the rest of the band were carrying him. And that was why they eventually got rid of him.

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Salami

I won't deny that he was a really difficult person to get on with! Surely there's some case, though, for him being a great musician? I know he could be a real dick at times, but at the end of the day when we are talking about how musically talented he was, his personal life isn't relevant?
I'm not trying to defend the man, I just think that there must be some things about him that make his comparison with John Paul Jones an interesting one, perhaps especially the fact that John Paul Jones was quite a mild mannered person.

CitySlickCaptain

I was just pointing out why he was overshadowed. If we're going to say he was overshadowed, we may as well know why.

He was a nasty little man and I believe it cost him his life.

blastingas10

You might be right. He just about made a baby everywhere he went and kept moving on, never being a part of their lives. But he did take care of some of his kids I believe. He sold his record collection in order to help take care of one.

But nonetheless, I never said anything about his personal. And even if he wasn't a nasty little man, he still would have been overshadowed.


It's a little off topic because I was talking about his ability as a musician, not his personal life. And I disagree, he contributed. He played slide guitar on many songs, organ, marimba, trumpet, appalachian dulcimer, harpischord, accordion, saxaphone, oboe, mellotron, harmonica, and autoharp.

Chives

Alright. I've been gathering some Stones albums in the past couple weeks and the more I listen to the more awesome I think they are. I tried listening to them a while back and they did basically nothing for me (I was turned off by what I perceived as a lack of consistency on the albums I had heard) but after a few listens they are growing on me a ton. Im beginning to understand why they are held in such high regard!

So far I've got Big Hits (High Tides and Green Grass), Aftermath, Between the Buttons, Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed and Exile on Main St. I plan on picking up Sticky Fingers and Some Girls once they pop up at the record store. Maybe Their Satanic Majesies Request...

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blastingas10

I didn't say anything about him as a person. Nor did I say anything about his songwriting ability. I'm talking about instrumental prowess. And his was very strong. His personal character Is completely irrelevant.

Salami

You always turn up and say what I was saying in about half the words yet articulate it a lot better. Sadly Urban has hit the hay for tonight, so we'll have to postpone this argument. We can't be fighting when the mod isn't around.

blastingas10

Haha, well you pretty much said all there was to be said. I just felt the need to repeat it.

What he said may be true, but it was a little off topic.

CitySlickCaptain

Not really because it was implied that Brian was overshadowed because of his playing abilities, which simply wasn't the case. He was a much more talented musician than Keith.