Salami

You don't need to say things like that. If he was a prick, why did they keep him in the band for so long? Anyway, the question here is about talent. Both men were good at many different instruments, and this is what the question concerns.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Because originally it was his band.

You should read Andrew Loog Oldham's autobiography. Jones was given chance after chance after chance to sort himself out, by the end the rest of the band were carrying him. And that was why they eventually got rid of him.

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Salami

I won't deny that he was a really difficult person to get on with! Surely there's some case, though, for him being a great musician? I know he could be a real dick at times, but at the end of the day when we are talking about how musically talented he was, his personal life isn't relevant?
I'm not trying to defend the man, I just think that there must be some things about him that make his comparison with John Paul Jones an interesting one, perhaps especially the fact that John Paul Jones was quite a mild mannered person.

CitySlickCaptain

I was just pointing out why he was overshadowed. If we're going to say he was overshadowed, we may as well know why.

He was a nasty little man and I believe it cost him his life.

blastingas10

You might be right. He just about made a baby everywhere he went and kept moving on, never being a part of their lives. But he did take care of some of his kids I believe. He sold his record collection in order to help take care of one.

But nonetheless, I never said anything about his personal. And even if he wasn't a nasty little man, he still would have been overshadowed.


It's a little off topic because I was talking about his ability as a musician, not his personal life. And I disagree, he contributed. He played slide guitar on many songs, organ, marimba, trumpet, appalachian dulcimer, harpischord, accordion, saxaphone, oboe, mellotron, harmonica, and autoharp.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Jones was happy for the band to remain an R&B / Blues covers band.
He may have been a talented musician but he didn't exactly push himself.

It was Jagger, Richards & Loog Oldham that wanted the band to explore new things and to write their own material. It was that material that gave Jones the chance to show how good he was, and he couldn't handle the pressure. Which is why he had the problems he did and why he was finally ejected from the band.

It doesn't matter if you were talking about his personal life or not, the man and the musician are same thing, you can't separate them.

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blastingas10

And he was still a very talanted musician who could play a wide variety of instruments. No matter what you say, that statement can't be denied.