The Rolling Stones

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-29-2011, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

It's a little off topic because I was talking about his ability as a musician, not his personal life. And I disagree, he contributed. He played slide guitar on many songs, organ, marimba, trumpet, appalachian dulcimer, harpischord, accordion, saxaphone, oboe, mellotron, harmonica, and autoharp.

Jones was happy for the band to remain an R&B / Blues covers band.
He may have been a talented musician but he didn't exactly push himself.

It was Jagger, Richards & Loog Oldham that wanted the band to explore new things and to write their own material. It was that material that gave Jones the chance to show how good he was, and he couldn't handle the pressure. Which is why he had the problems he did and why he was finally ejected from the band.

It doesn't matter if you were talking about his personal life or not, the man and the musician are same thing, you can't separate them.

blastingas10 · 11-29-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Jones was happy for the band to remain an R&B / Blues covers band.
He may have been a talented musician but he didn't exactly push himself.

It was Jagger, Richards & Loog Oldham that wanted the band to explore new things and to write their own material. It was that material that gave Jones the chance to show how good he was, and he couldn't handle the pressure. Which is why he had the problems he did and why he was finally ejected from the band.

It doesn't matter if you were talking about his personal life or not, the man and the musician are same thing, you can't separate them.

And he was still a very talanted musician who could play a wide variety of instruments. No matter what you say, that statement can't be denied.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 11-29-2011, 05:45 PM

Well that depends on your definition of talented.

Was he talented?
I don't know, he may have been able to play a large number of instruments but he hardly put his stamp of authority on the Stones. and as that was the only band he was in and was HIS band, I can only judge him on that.

Most people seem to think the Stones recorded their best stuff with Mick Taylor on guitar.

blastingas10 · 11-29-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Well that depends on your definition of talented.

Was he talented?
I don't know, he may have been able to play a large number of instruments but he hardly put his stamp of authority on the Stones. and as that was the only band he was in and was HIS band, I can only judge him on that.

Most people seem to think the Stones recorded their best stuff with Mick Taylor on guitar.

If you can play as many instruments as he could, you're pretty damn talented in my opinion. More talented than most people. He wasn't a talented songwriter, but he was a talented instrumentalist.

CitySlickCaptain · 11-29-2011, 06:14 PM

Mick and Keith must have appreciated his abilities because Keith say in his book that the door was always going to be left open for Brian to return if and when he was able to straighten himself out.

blastingas10 · 11-29-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CitySlickCaptain

Mick and Keith must have appreciated his abilities because Keith say in his book that the door was always going to be left open for Brian to return if and when he was able to straighten himself out.

Bill Wyman has referred to Jones as "an incredibly gifted musician". They all understood how talented he was. Unfortunately he couldn't straighten himself out.

Howard the Duck · 11-29-2011, 11:56 PM

of what i've heard of the Brian Jones-era, i'd chip in and say Jones was a great copyist

original material, I dunno

blastingas10 · 11-30-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

of what i've heard of the Brian Jones-era, i'd chip in and say Jones was a great copyist

original material, I dunno

He loved the blues. I wouldn't call him a copyist. How did he copy? He never wrote any songs.

Howard the Duck · 11-30-2011, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

He loved the blues. I wouldn't call him a copyist. How did he copy? He never wrote any songs.

stuff like the note-for-note rendition of I Just Can't Be Satisfied

blastingas10 · 11-30-2011, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Il Duce

stuff like the note-for-note rendition of I Just Can't Be Satisfied

Well It was a cover, wasn't it?

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CitySlickCaptain Groupie Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 15	Mick and Keith must have appreciated his abilities because Keith say in his book that the door was always going to be left open for Brian to return if and when he was able to straighten himself out.