Jimmy vs. Jimi (hendrix, tunes, guitarist, solo, quote)

sleepy jack · 12-02-2005, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

Page has had his various problems with ripping off other music, and I don't favour that too much.

List songs hes "ripped off"

Seltzer · 12-02-2005, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk

List songs hes "ripped off"

I haven't checked it out myself, so you should google it.

But I believe it's true when I have big Led Zeppelin fans telling me about it. If those people hated Led Zep, I would have checked it out myself.

I'm sure someone can tell you about it. I would have checked it out, but Page's ripping off doesn't bother me too much. He still wrote plenty of good stuff anyway.

From memory, I think the songs (or parts of songs) that he ripped off were Stairway to Heaven, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Whole Lotta Love and a few others. I think Willie Dixon won a lawsuit against Page which involved ripping off music.

sleepy jack · 12-02-2005, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Seltzer

I haven't checked it out myself, so you should google it.

But I believe it's true when I have big Led Zeppelin fans telling me about it. If those people hated Led Zep, I would have checked it out myself.

I'm sure someone can tell you about it. I would have checked it out, but Page's ripping off doesn't bother me too much. He still wrote plenty of good stuff anyway.

From memory, I think he ripped off songs (or parts of songs) were Stairway to Heaven, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Whole Lotta Love and a few others. I think Willie Dixon won a lawsuit against Page which involved ripping off music.

You shouldn't walk around saying crap you can't back up im not gonna look it up, Because i didnt say it. So seeing as you have no proof other then "some fanboys said so" your rip off statement means nothing.

~~bungalow~~ · 12-02-2005, 08:13 PM

word

sleepy jack · 12-02-2005, 09:58 PM

No thats quite enough for me.
I commend thee for looking.
and now im enlightened.

Seltzer · 12-02-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk

No thats quite enough for me.
I commend thee for looking.
and now im enlightened.

No worries

.

Page wrote loads of other good stuff anyway. I still prefer Hendrix though.

~~bungalow~~ · 12-02-2005, 10:06 PM

Wow....I am very suprised to see MIsfits back off
Very nice
How did you do it Seltzer

sleepy jack · 12-02-2005, 10:09 PM

I'd like to point out i was saying all along "i want facts i want facts" and he presented facts im not an idiot i wont keep arguing a dead point.

I have 0 love for zeppelin i sure as hell wouldn't defend them with a passion.

Kashmir86 · 12-02-2005, 11:58 PM

zeppelin did get a lot of ideas for their songs from earlier songs, but they would always change them up and make them better and in their own style. dazed and confused owes a lot of thanks to jake holmes, he founded the evil sounding descending line, but page added his own spin to it. he layered it with fuzzed out octaves and weeping bends and vibrato, later displacing the entire figure by a dotted-eighth beat. also it features a heavy 6/8 call and response riff not found in the holmes original. this is true to most of the songs they supposedlty ripped off. they would use parts of songs to get an idea, but they wouldnt play the whole thing note for note in that same style. if you think about it, how many songs have used a descending line like dazed and confused? tales of brave ulysses has a descending line, i know there are some others as well i cant think of off hand. and they did not rip off stairway to heaven or parts of it at all, it was purely original zeppelin.

JohnnyK · 12-04-2005, 09:39 AM

Page might have taken a little here and there from other artists, but it seems to me that most people are determined to say that he is a phony and a thief before they even listen to the songs he supposedly stole. The only song I think there is hard evidence for is Dazed and Confused, and honestly, I'm rather glad they stole it. It's one of my favorite Zeppelin tunes.

I went with Jimmy by the way, Hendrix has never really hit with me.

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12-02-2005, 11:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kashmir86 Traveler Of Time & Space Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: I'm the bustle in your hedgegrow Posts: 640	zeppelin did get a lot of ideas for their songs from earlier songs, but they would always change them up and make them better and in their own style. dazed and confused owes a lot of thanks to jake holmes, he founded the evil sounding descending line, but page added his own spin to it. he layered it with fuzzed out octaves and weeping bends and vibrato, later displacing the entire figure by a dotted-eighth beat. also it features a heavy 6/8 call and response riff not found in the holmes original. this is true to most of the songs they supposedlty ripped off. they would use parts of songs to get an idea, but they wouldnt play the whole thing note for note in that same style. if you think about it, how many songs have used a descending line like dazed and confused? tales of brave ulysses has a descending line, i know there are some others as well i cant think of off hand. and they did not rip off stairway to heaven or parts of it at all, it was purely original zeppelin. __________________ "Into this house we’re born Into this world we’re thrown Like a dog without a bone An actor out on loan Riders on the storm" "How many ears must one man have Before he can hear people cry? How many deaths will it take till he knows That too many people have died?" "Diamond rope silver chain Pretty noose is pretty pain And I don’t like what you got me hanging from"

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~~bungalow~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hot-lanta Posts: 3,061	Wow....I am very suprised to see MIsfits back off Very nice How did you do it Seltzer

12-04-2005, 09:39 AM	#10 (permalink)
JohnnyK Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: TN Posts: 167	Page might have taken a little here and there from other artists, but it seems to me that most people are determined to say that he is a phony and a thief before they even listen to the songs he supposedly stole. The only song I think there is hard evidence for is Dazed and Confused, and honestly, I'm rather glad they stole it. It's one of my favorite Zeppelin tunes. I went with Jimmy by the way, Hendrix has never really hit with me.