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boo boo 11-13-2005 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba
I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open.

I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck.

Thanks, and it is pretty late, good night. ;)

Kempson 11-13-2005 05:56 AM

If it gets Boo boo off my arse then I'm all for it.

boo boo 11-13-2005 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kempson
If it gets Boo boo off my arse then I'm all for it.

Awesome. :D

ArtistInTheAmbulance 11-13-2005 10:11 AM

Christ boo boo you can back up an argument.. Initially, I was thinking it was sort of un-needed, we have plenty of forums now, and a few of them are already going pretty unnoticed, like the classical and electronica as you said. But, my say means just the same as everyone elses here, and I think that if you can keep it alive (which Im pretty sure you can, from reading this topic through) then it'd be a good idea. Maybe as a sub-forum somewhere, you said earlier about how we have an emo forum, which isnt as influential, just popular.. Well yeah, but its a subforum, so maybe thats the way to go here ? Anyway, we'll get more people to vote and get some more opinions on it all before we do anything..

boo boo 11-13-2005 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
Christ boo boo you can back up an argument.. Initially, I was thinking it was sort of un-needed, we have plenty of forums now, and a few of them are already going pretty unnoticed, like the classical and electronica as you said. But, my say means just the same as everyone elses here, and I think that if you can keep it alive (which Im pretty sure you can, from reading this topic through) then it'd be a good idea. Maybe as a sub-forum somewhere, you said earlier about how we have an emo forum, which isnt as influential, just popular.. Well yeah, but its a subforum, so maybe thats the way to go here ? Anyway, we'll get more people to vote and get some more opinions on it all before we do anything..

Ok, thanks a lot... And a sub-forum would not be a bad idea, but what would be the best forum to put it in?

Sneer 11-13-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Call me biased, i am a prog fan, but i do think that if this forums intent is to cover all types of music and get kids into other styles of music they havent heard before, making a prog forum would be a good start. I dont think it would hurt to educate posters here about progressive rock, which is one of the most misunderstood genres of rock. You may say prog isnt popular enough, but hell, isnt that good enough a reason to make a prog forum? To teach others about less popular genres of music? I dont see prog being any less popular or "un-hip" with kids nowadays than say classical music. Its certainly a credible genre, more than pop for sure...Prog isnt dead, its no where as popular as it was in the 70s, but it still has a very loyal following of fans from around the world, there are still many active prog movements in many different countrys, including the US, Canada, UK, France, Italy, Japan, Germany and Sweden...It would be a big step for this forum in expanding tastes and being a much more diverse site for music dicussion. You could get kids into new music and attract new forum members in the process. Prog is a very special genre in rock, and it has just as many sub-genres as metal and punk if not more. Many bands today incorperate prog elements in their music, like Sigur Ros, Mars Volta, Arcade Fire, Coheed and Cambria, Muse and many others. The reason i make this a issue is because if someone wants to make a prog related thread, they should have a proper place to put it. I was gonna make a Yes appreciation thread once, but i didnt know where to put it, weither to post it on the general music forum or the rock and metal forum, either way it would have felt too out of place, so that had me thinking. Sure you could say that prog is a part of rock so prog threads should just be posted on the rock and metal forum, but punk is a part of rock too, and it has its own forum, indie rock has its own forum. Why should they get their own forums and not prog?

as much as i love prog, i think it in itself is merely a sub-genre of many different genres - not a genre in itself if you get me. its far too varied to have a forum erected in its behalf, we'd have punk fans, rock fans, metal fans, jazz fans, indie fans etc etc etc all converging into one big debate- which i was of the opinion is the main problem we have with forums at the moment anyway...
now a sub-forum woul be quite dandy, though again where would it be put? you'd hhave to have one for each forum as lets face it, every genre of music has its innovative, original bands that progress and push the boundaries of what can be done musically within the generic scope.

ArtistInTheAmbulance 11-13-2005 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Ok, thanks a lot... And a sub-forum would not be a bad idea, but what would be the best forum to put it in?

Youre the expert.. I was thinking under rock, but then it gets tricky with it being a rock & metal forum. Well, Im sure that wouldnt bother you, but anyway, we're not even saying anything is gonna happen yet.

boo boo 11-13-2005 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by LedZepStu
as much as i love prog, i think it in itself is merely a sub-genre of many different genres - not a genre in itself if you get me. its far too varied to have a forum erected in its behalf, we'd have punk fans, rock fans, metal fans, jazz fans, indie fans etc etc etc all converging into one big debate- which i was of the opinion is the main problem we have with forums at the moment anyway...
now a sub-forum woul be quite dandy, though again where would it be put? you'd hhave to have one for each forum as lets face it, every genre of music has its innovative, original bands that progress and push the boundaries of what can be done musically within the generic scope.

Well its like i said, if you are gonna call it a rock sub-genre, why not call it a jazz and classical sub-genre as well? But instead of fighting about which genre it spawned from, which is stupid, making a forum would be a good idea...Prog is in a category of its own, if it wasnt, people wouldnt have such a hard time trying to figure out what category it belongs to.

boo boo 11-13-2005 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance
Youre the expert.. I was thinking under rock, but then it gets tricky with it being a rock & metal forum. Well, Im sure that wouldnt bother you, but anyway, we're not even saying anything is gonna happen yet.

I know, but im being optimistic about the poll results. :)

But yeah that was what i was thinking, it would get tricky, i did have a idea of changing the forum name to Rock, Metal and Prog forum, but i dont know if that will fly with everyone.

Sneer 11-13-2005 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo
Well its like i said, if you are gonna call it a rock sub-genre, why not call it a jazz and classical sub-genre as well? But instead of fighting about which genre it spawned from, which is stupid, making a forum would be a good idea...Prog is in a category of its own, if it wasnt, people wouldnt have such a hard time trying to figure out what category it belongs to.

that was my whole point, it doesnt belong to any specific genre, its far too broad a term as it applies to every set genre. and people try to categorize it because it cant really be a category of its own - due to its huge diversity, you've got influences and conventions from every genre and i just think it would become far too loose a term.


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