Should there be a prog forum on musicbanter? (Read First!) (electronic, country)

Merkaba · 11-13-2005, 01:50 AM

Yes and kinda no. Yes because of the same reason theres an emo and hardcore section. And I like prog.

No because, well, it seems semi trivial. I mean, theres a reason prog has rock attached to the end of it's title.

I'll support it...

boo boo · 11-13-2005, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

Yes and kinda no. Yes because of the same reason theres an emo and hardcore section. And I like prog.

No because, well, it seems semi trivial. I mean, theres a reason prog has rock attached to the end of it's title.

And pop punk has punk in its name, not the best example.

Believe me, prog is probably the most "non rock" rock genre there is.

Merkaba · 11-13-2005, 02:25 AM

But more often than not would you call it rock?

well, not rock, but with rock as its primary element.

boo boo · 11-13-2005, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

But more often than not would you call it rock?

well, not rock, but with rock as its primary element.

Well rock is not always the primary element, it depends on the band and the sub-genre. A lot of prog, mainly Symphonic Prog used classical music style structure, melody, rhythm and composition, but by using modern instruments instead of symphony orchestras, basicly classical music with rock instruments. Though some prog bands have more complex ensembles, King Crimson for example. Artists like ELP and Frank Zappa did versions of classical music pieces very often. Other styles of rock have more jazz influences, Gong, Soft Machine and Magma are examples of prog bands with heavy jazz leanings. Some styles of prog incorperate english folk influences, such as Jethro Tull, The Strawbs and Renaissance and some prog bands incorperate eastern influences into their music, bands like Quintessence.

So in short, prog is a style of rock that may or may not consider rock its primary element, because it tends to blend many genres, jazz and classical more than others. Its basicly a style of music that blends rock with more innovative ideals that stretch beyond just rock music. So if prog is really a sub-genre to rock, it is probably a sub genre to jazz and classical too. I think prog is just too unique and dificult to define to be put into the same catagory as other rock genres, i really believe its in a category of its own.

Merkaba · 11-13-2005, 02:53 AM

I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open.

I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck.

boo boo · 11-13-2005, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open.

I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck.

Thanks, and it is pretty late, good night.

Kempson · 11-13-2005, 05:56 AM

If it gets Boo boo off my arse then I'm all for it.

boo boo · 11-13-2005, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kempson

If it gets Boo boo off my arse then I'm all for it.

Awesome.

ArtistInTheAmbulance · 11-13-2005, 10:11 AM

Christ boo boo you can back up an argument.. Initially, I was thinking it was sort of un-needed, we have plenty of forums now, and a few of them are already going pretty unnoticed, like the classical and electronica as you said. But, my say means just the same as everyone elses here, and I think that if you can keep it alive (which Im pretty sure you can, from reading this topic through) then it'd be a good idea. Maybe as a sub-forum somewhere, you said earlier about how we have an emo forum, which isnt as influential, just popular.. Well yeah, but its a subforum, so maybe thats the way to go here ? Anyway, we'll get more people to vote and get some more opinions on it all before we do anything..

boo boo · 11-13-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ArtistInTheAmbulance

Christ boo boo you can back up an argument.. Initially, I was thinking it was sort of un-needed, we have plenty of forums now, and a few of them are already going pretty unnoticed, like the classical and electronica as you said. But, my say means just the same as everyone elses here, and I think that if you can keep it alive (which Im pretty sure you can, from reading this topic through) then it'd be a good idea. Maybe as a sub-forum somewhere, you said earlier about how we have an emo forum, which isnt as influential, just popular.. Well yeah, but its a subforum, so maybe thats the way to go here ? Anyway, we'll get more people to vote and get some more opinions on it all before we do anything..

Ok, thanks a lot... And a sub-forum would not be a bad idea, but what would be the best forum to put it in?

View Poll Results: Should there be a prog forum?
Yes	23	65.71%
No	11	31.43%
Not Sure	1	2.86%
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11-13-2005, 01:50 AM	#1 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	Yes and kinda no. Yes because of the same reason theres an emo and hardcore section. And I like prog. No because, well, it seems semi trivial. I mean, theres a reason prog has rock attached to the end of it's title. I'll support it... __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

11-13-2005, 02:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	But more often than not would you call it rock? well, not rock, but with rock as its primary element. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

11-13-2005, 02:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Merkaba Whitewater! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,882	I can't debate anymore, I'm still trying to argue with my eyes to stay open. I feel you have a very solid point boo boo, so yeah. good luck. __________________ She thinks I'm a reclusive genius, she's going to be very disappointed when she finds out i'm a reclusive wanker

11-13-2005, 10:11 AM	#9 (permalink)
ArtistInTheAmbulance enchanted. Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: cornwailles, angleterre. Posts: 2,528	Christ boo boo you can back up an argument.. Initially, I was thinking it was sort of un-needed, we have plenty of forums now, and a few of them are already going pretty unnoticed, like the classical and electronica as you said. But, my say means just the same as everyone elses here, and I think that if you can keep it alive (which Im pretty sure you can, from reading this topic through) then it'd be a good idea. Maybe as a sub-forum somewhere, you said earlier about how we have an emo forum, which isnt as influential, just popular.. Well yeah, but its a subforum, so maybe thats the way to go here ? Anyway, we'll get more people to vote and get some more opinions on it all before we do anything.. __________________ shake your wings like theyre laced with sound!

11-13-2005, 05:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kempson Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: UK Posts: 193	If it gets Boo boo off my arse then I'm all for it.