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ProggyMan · 07-08-2008, 08:51 PM

I don't think I could stand a 15 minute drum solo from anyone...If we're talking technical skill Bonham's better, but he's far from the best. In terms of personal preference I find Moon's style far more entertaining.

lucifer_sam · 07-08-2008, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ProggyMan

I don't think I could stand a 15 minute drum solo from anyone...If we're talking technical skill Bonham's better, but he's far from the best. In terms of personal preference I find Moon's style far more entertaining.

In your extensive musical wisdom, please tell me, who is a better technical drummer than John Bonham?

ProggyMan · 07-08-2008, 09:57 PM

Bill Bruford. Neil Peart. Pat Mastelotto. Michael Giles.

lucifer_sam · 07-08-2008, 10:16 PM

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Bill Bruford. Neil Peart. Pat Mastelotto. Michael Giles.

Lolz. Anything that isn't textbook prog? Because I can assure you most of them drew influence from Bonham, and were certainly no better. Neil Peart is probably the best of those that you forthcame, and he was good, but he wasn't Bonzo. No, sorry.

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And a hundred thousand jazz drummers.

I...didn't even know there were that many jazz drummers. If that many drummers put him to shame, I should think he's pretty mediocre.

Seltzer · 07-08-2008, 10:23 PM

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Lolz. Anything that isn't textbook prog? Because I can assure you most of them drew influence from Bonham, and were certainly no better. Neil Peart is probably the best of those that you forthcame, and he was good, but he wasn't Bonzo. No, sorry.

I...didn't even know there were that many jazz drummers. If that many drummers put him to shame, I should think he's pretty mediocre.

You asked him for some drummers which are technically superior to Bonham and he named some. I don't see where influence comes into this.

And technically, there are many jazz drummers who are superior to Bonham. But technique isn't half of the story, so that doesn't matter, right? Bonham in general, is far from mediocre. But he's certainly no slouch on the technical front either.

lucifer_sam · 07-08-2008, 10:42 PM

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You asked him for some drummers which are technically superior to Bonham and he named some. I don't see where influence comes into this.

And technically, there are many jazz drummers who are superior to Bonham. But technique isn't half of the story, so that doesn't matter, right? Bonham in general, is far from mediocre. But he's certainly no slouch on the technical front either.

I just meant that in drawing influence from mainstream rock drummers like Bonzo and Moon that is was very likely that they developed similar techniques. I suppose there are those who may be technically superior to Bonham. I shouldn't have uttered that misstatement. But I heartily believe he is the best overall drummer. His energy and intensity were simply incredible, and I don't believe anyone - including jazz drummers, yes - could rival his presence onstage.

That is, er, what I meant to say.

ProggyMan · 07-08-2008, 10:54 PM

Is it just me or have Michael Giles and Bill Bruford been making music before Bonham became famous? I'm making the point that there are many, many drummers who are technically superior than Bonham, and saying no one can touch him is ridiculous.

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07-08-2008, 08:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	I don't think I could stand a 15 minute drum solo from anyone...If we're talking technical skill Bonham's better, but he's far from the best. In terms of personal preference I find Moon's style far more entertaining.

07-08-2008, 09:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Bill Bruford. Neil Peart. Pat Mastelotto. Michael Giles.

07-08-2008, 10:54 PM	#7 (permalink)
ProggyMan Reformed Jackass Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 3,964	Is it just me or have Michael Giles and Bill Bruford been making music before Bonham became famous? I'm making the point that there are many, many drummers who are technically superior than Bonham, and saying no one can touch him is ridiculous.