boo boo

Uh, I seriously can't tell if you're joking, his singing on that song is excellent, and his version is better than Cohens by a damn good margin. He certainly wasn't trying to sing it the way Cohen did.

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ProggyMan

No, I mainly don't like his voice. That's all, I agree Cohen's is crap, but I find Rufus Wainwright's to be better than both. He really nails every moment in a way Buckley fails to do. Buckley's a talented singer, he's just way overhyped.

boo boo

To each his own.

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If every member of Led Zeppelin died and it was just Jason Bonham on drums I would still say Led Zeppelin is better.

Led Zeppelin fused blues, rock, acoustic, and folk to give us an amazing array of albums. With the exception of Presence, every single Led Zeppelin album has been great (and that was certainly understandable considering the...circumstances). The Who has given us maybe two to three really good albums, and those sales were built upon the success of singles. I'm not trying to dismiss the influence The Who had on the genre or their ability as musicians, but comparing the two bands is pointless, and sad.

Led Zeppelin had an amazing keyboardist and bassist, an incredibly emotional and soulful vocalist, an impeccable and accomplished guitarist, and the best drummer in the world (hands all the way down).

The Who had "Teenage Wasteland," so I guess it wasn't all bad.

boo boo

Say what? Presence is a damn good album, and the most under appreciated of their work. I mean c'mon, Achilles Last Stand? Ten For One? How can you go wrong with those?

It's better than In Through The Out Door, thats for sure. Please don't even try to defend that abomination.

Who Sell Out, Tommy, Live At Leeds, Whos Next and Quadrophena (which is overrated by Who fans, but still damn good).

C'mon now, you're being a little fanboish.

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No, and I repeat, no, Presence was not a great album. Both it and In Through The Out Door were simply albums to fulfill their contract obligations; they were written in a hurry (well, ITTOD was - Presence was abridged by tragedy).

As for The Who albums, I refuse to accept Tommy as a genuine work of musical talent. And if we're comparing live albums, don't even try to wage war when there's How The West Was Won, which destroys Live at Leeds in every ****ing category. I know, it came about thirty years too late, but it is the single greatest live album since At Fillmore East (by The llman Brothers Band). I admit, I liked Quadrophenia a lot. But it wasn't nearly as profound as Led Zeppelin IV.

Most of my displeasure with this entire idea of comparing the two bands stems from their approach to music. While The Who used radio to ensnare looming fans with their most popular singles, Zeppelin intended to focus upon making good albums - not good singles - to sell themselves. I don't dislike The Who. I think they are an extremely talented band. But Led Zeppelin's all-encompassing talent simply surpasses them.

If I'm a Zeppelin fanboy, I come by it honestly.

(And for those of you who claim Daltry was a much better vocalist than Plant, understand first that they are different. Plant never intended to be a crooner or someone who would shout phrases with unbroken vocalization. But it takes vocal talent of an unwieldy nature to change "baby I'm going to lose my worried mind" to "baby baby baby baby baby baby...I'm going to lo-o-o-ose my worried mind.")

boo boo

Those made up facts, those ridiculous exagerations, that stubborn "I'm right, you're wrong attitude, your huge bias towards Zep and against The Who.

Could it be..... Archie from DDD? Is that you?

Oh and

Absolutely not. HTWWW is good, but to even compare it to At Fillmore East let alone Live at Leeds is just absurd, both of those albums sh*t on HTWWW like crazy. I prefer Zeppelin to The Who and certainly to the Allman Bros, but I'm not blind from the truth. Zep are better than The Who in the studio, but live it's no comparison, it has to be The Who.

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lucifer_sam

Who is Archie? And what is DDD?

More importantly, have you heard the entirety of How The West Was Won? Could you hear the unbridled emotion of Plant's vocals in "Since I've Been Loving You" or the perfect guitar of Jimmy Page in "Black Dog"? Or, perhaps you skipped over the seventeen minute drum opus in "Moby ****"? Somehow, I don't think you heard the harmonies in "Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp."

Maybe the album wasn't an accurate reflection of their overall stage abilities. After all, I've never seen them live. I'm betting you haven't either. But from what I've seen from videos, Led Zeppelin were certainly excellent performers. And I'm sorry that I don't share your respect for guitar smashing.

ProggyMan

Lol. Seeing as you don't even know the name of the Who's most famous song you don't know much about them. I didn't know Led even used keyboards and Entwhistle is much better than JPJ. Bonham's only slightly better than Moon and Townshend is close to Page. Songwriting wise no one in Hard Rock matches Townshend. Vocally Daltrey is worlds better technically than Plant and doesn't exactly stand around on stage. The Who have much better lyrics as well. Live the Who were incredibly tight and even now in 2007 they put on a damn good show.

lucifer_sam

They were different eras. The Who was formed while Jimmy Page was still in The Yardbirds (i think). The first Led Zeppelin album was released four years after The Who famously released My Generation. To declare one writer to be better than a whole band is an insult to what they - and the sole writer - accomplished. Plus, however great a songwriter Townshend was, he was no match to the Lennon/McCartney duo. (But then again, noone was). And I do disagree that "The Who sold out and became hacks." They lost creative energy, maybe, but so do all good bands (unless they die when they were popular).

Haha, I "forgot". (The last time I used that misnomer, I was being hassled by a drunk friend. Guess I never really remembered.) Fair enough. I will concede Entwistle to be great, but JPJ was a good keyboardist (have you heard Rock and Roll, No Quarter, or Kashmir? - the last two are on synth but whatev), and he was a top notch bassist (see The Crunge, and again, Bron-Yr-Aur Stomp) Maybe Entwhistle was better. But JPJ was no Ringo Starr; he was very talented. Although I agree with everything else, I have trouble believing too many drummers can even compete with Bonham (and certainly there aren't too many great bands that respected their drummers like Zeppelin respected Bonham). Moon was great; he was one of the greats, but he wasn't Bonham. Not even close. In the words of another venerated drummer, Dave Grohl:

"No one has come close to that since, and I don't think anybody ever will. I think he will forever be the greatest drummer of all time."

Well, maybe Meg White.