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lucifer_sam 07-21-2008 09:59 AM

I think the only outright case of them stealing a song is Bring It On Home, where the first part almost correlates directly to Sonny Boy Williamson's version. However, (and this is a big however), Williamson didn't write the song. It was written by Willie Dixon and used on Williamson's 1963 record. Moreover, the second part was written entirely by Page/Plant and is certainly the outstanding part of the song. In addition, the main guitar/harmonica music on the intro is a simple blues progression common to many blues songs and was not Dixon's or Sonny Boy Williamson's work in the first place.

And I agree completely with boo boo, there is too much hypocrisy in the industry to accuse one band of plagiarism without acknowledging that hundreds of rappers do it every year.

boo boo 07-21-2008 11:53 PM

Seriously, plagiarism (or sampling) is a widely accepted TECHNIQUE in hip hop music. :laughing:

dac 07-23-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499363)

Zeps non-blues oriented songs (which tend to be my favorite songs from them anyway) are 100% written by the Zep. Though people make a huge deal out of the opening guitar part of Stairway being similar (but not indentical) to the riff from a Spirit song called Taurus.

do you have any idea how to read guitar tabs... if so, look up taurus and stairway and stfu

additionally, do you find it interesting that spirit happened to tour with zeppelin before stairway was released (taurus was already released of course)? hmm... now lets connect some dots

finally, your attack on radiohead is 1) irrelevant, and 2) sad because you accuse them of ripping off themselves because you ran out of examples so you decided to throw something completely wrong in

Wayfarer 07-23-2008 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499734)
Seriously, plagiarism (or sampling) is a widely accepted TECHNIQUE in hip hop music. :laughing:

Whitest post ever.

Son of JayJamJah 07-23-2008 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 500379)
Whitest post ever.

Whatever

It's true. Try to dispute instead of ignoring it with a pathetically simple comment.

Wayfarer 07-23-2008 10:36 PM

Trying to dispute anything on this forum is a huge waste of time IMO.

As far as Led Zep Vs. The Who goes...ehm, not a huge fan of either, but I think I like The Who a bit more.

Son of JayJamJah 07-23-2008 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 500408)
Trying to dispute anything on this forum is a huge waste of time IMO..

I couldn't agree less.

This site is full of knowledgeable, thoughtful and respectful fans of music. You're one of em' you should know this.

Wayfarer 07-24-2008 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 500411)
I couldn't agree less.

You're wasting your time. =D

EDIT: Okay fine, sampling is not plagiarism because most often only tiny fragments of songs are used, and on the rare occasion a larger fragment (such as a chorus/hook/entire riff/whatever) is used, the original artist is given credit. I mean, DJ Shadow's "Endtroducing..." is composed entirely of samples, but if I were to play you every song that he sampled, then play you his album, I highly doubt you'd be able to specify when each song was being sampled.

Son of JayJamJah 07-24-2008 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayfarer (Post 500549)
You're wasting your time. =D

And enjoying every second of it.

ProggyMan 07-24-2008 11:44 AM

Honestly I enjoy debates no matter how much swearing/name calling there is.


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