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Son of JayJamJah 07-20-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 499230)
im gonna go with the who, because they didn't steal a bunch of their songs unlike zeppelin

Even though (because of your diction) the statement is in a bizarre way correct, I was able to decipher it's meaning. Suffice to say if you believe that you're an idiot.

COBHCNick 07-20-2008 05:59 PM

Led Zeppelin, by far, for me.

lucifer_sam 07-20-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dac (Post 499230)
im gonna go with the who, because they didn't steal a bunch of their songs unlike zeppelin

It'd be nice if the occasional critic were to research his statements before he offers up a steaming pile of shit for us to digest...

boo boo 07-21-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 499301)
It'd be nice if the occasional critic were to research his statements before he offers up a steaming pile of shit for us to digest...

I hate having to repeat myself too, theres so much made up bullsh*t about how much they plagiarized that it's goddamn ridiculous.

No one gives a **** about Radiohead lifting melodies from The Beatles and The Smiths. But people find a goddamn Eddie Cochran song that has a similar title to a Zep song and suddenly it's an "uncredited cover".

TheCaster 07-21-2008 01:55 AM

I dont find these to be the best pair of bands to compare but i would have to go with led zeppelin.

woah wait, wich songs have been accused of plaguerism by led zeppelin?

boo boo 07-21-2008 03:06 AM

A lot, but most of whats bene proven to actually be stolen material is almost always the lyrics, primarly on their first 2 albums.

Songs like Dazed & Confused, Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, In My Time of Dying, When the Levee Breaks and (half of) Bring It on Home are uncredited covers. Though they are radically altered and different from the originals to the extent that I think the band still deserves some writing credit for them. They also took writing credit for covers of traditional songs with no credited writer. Like Black Mountain Side, Gallows Pole and White Summer.

Other songs like The Lemon Song, How Many More Times and Whole Lotta Love took parts from old blues songs but consisted mostly of original material, but that dosen't stop idiots from calling them uncredited covers. Theres other songs that took lyrics but nothing else.

It should be noted that pretty much all of the songs in question are their blues songs, and it's not uncommon at all for blues artists to "borrow" riffs or lyrics, its considered completely acceptible, and of course rappers use samples all the damn time. Of course hypocrites will overlook this.

Zeps non-blues oriented songs (which tend to be my favorite songs from them anyway) are 100% written by the Zep. Though people make a huge deal out of the opening guitar part of Stairway being similar (but not indentical) to the riff from a Spirit song called Taurus.

Not like any of this matters anyway, it only makes Zeppelin the greatest cover band ever.

Which reminds me, most Zeppelin bashers are also Radiohead fans. And lets take a look at some of the stuff they "borrowed", which is acceptible as long as it's not Zep.

Just - Riff sounds like SLTS.
Karma Police - Very similar piano line to Sexy Sadie.
Idioteque - Features samples of Paul Lansky.
Pyramid Song - Has a lyric taken from a Tom Waits song.
I Might Be Wrong - The basic riff sounds an awful lot like the riff to Beck's Loser.
Knives Out - Main riff sounds almost indentical to Paranoid Android, *******s stole FROM THEMSELVES.
Go to Sleep - The solo sounds very similar to Adrian Belews solo in the Talking Heads song Born Under Punches.
Last Flowers - Chorus sounds a LOT like Karma Police, yep they stole from themselves again.

See, just like Zep bashers do, I just copy and pasted all of this, and I can now say with complete confidence that Radiohead are talentless pieces of **** and are one of the worst bands of all time.

Do I sound bitter? Because I'm not.

Piss Me Off 07-21-2008 03:44 AM

Due to the huge extent of popular music most bands will end up nicking something from somewhere, even if they didn't mean to it'll be from their sub-concious (sp?) or simply because they haven't heard the music.
In the case of Zep, looking at Dazed and Confused and Babe I'm Gonna To Leave You, you'd have to be INCREDIBLY petty to pick on them for that because they're amazing songs.

TheCaster 07-21-2008 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499363)
Do I sound bitter? Because I'm not.

not really just over knowledgable, holy **** you know like ****ing everything about that, was that just off the top of your head?

boo boo 07-21-2008 03:59 AM

I did an investigation of sorts about a year back, finding all the material that was allegedly plagiarized.

Zeppelin certainly stole some stuff, no denying that. But the extent to how much they stole is greatly exagerated.

Son of JayJamJah 07-21-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by boo boo (Post 499372)
I did an investigation of sorts about a year back, finding all the material that was allegedly plagiarized.

Zeppelin certainly stole some stuff, no denying that. But the extent to how much they stole is greatly exagerated.

I wouldn't even say they stole anything. They clearly should have credited some influences, most notably Willie Dixon, but there are no direct rip-offs at all.

Great gum-shoeing 2boo.


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