Meatloaf vs Queen

Necromancer · 06-06-2011, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

I would vote for none of the above there.

Queen I liked when I was 16 when I had a more limited knowledge of music and it was all I knew. But now I find little interest in Queen. Freddy Mercury was a good frontman and he knew how to work an audience into a frenzy.. and for that I commend him. But beyond that I found him to be a lackluster performer, his music fails to engage me and I find any emotion he has is overshadowed by his over dramatic approach to his vocals and is sucked out in the process of trying to be a performer over an artist. Queen to me work better as a theatrical performance group than a group of musicians... They are entertainers more than musicians. Not on the level of say KISS who were no more than a marketing ploy and a case of substance over art, an image more than anything, or say Prince who is the epitome of over indulgance and wankery in every aspect.. but not that different either. Queen to me is a band that gets way to much attention and acclaim for what they did.

Meat Loaf fits into the same mold to me, good performer, lackluster artist, his music may of been something good in it's time, but it has not aged well.

Prince? I don't mean to pry in your personal & private business, but can I ask how old you are?

BastardofYoung · 06-06-2011, 07:34 PM

29.

Are you challenging my thoughts on Prince or are you saying he does not fit in?

Cause yeah, Prince to me is just... pathetic. The ultimate in wankery crap. Everything he does embodies this.

Necromancer · 06-06-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

29.

Are you challenging my thoughts on Prince or are you saying he does not fit in?

Cause yeah, Prince to me is just... pathetic. The ultimate in wankery crap. Everything he does embodies this.

Oh! Please No, I'm not in any way challenging your thoughts concerning Prince. I never thought that he had a stitch of talent myself. He hardly ever plays any musical instruments that shows any sort of musical talent that he possesses as an artist or in the studio. I agee, I dont think that Prince is anything more than a "Wanker" myself.

BastardofYoung · 06-06-2011, 08:01 PM

Yeah. Never got the appeal or why people kiss his ass. The people who say he is a great guitarist bother me most, he wasn't. All he did was take wanker techincal licks piece them together and show his hendrixisms.. but his riffs were no better than those guys who work at the local guitar shop and play riffs on their lunch break.

I mean watch him in this and say he is not a wanker:

just show off bulls*it. First off, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" doesn't need a two and a half minute solo... and the way he keeps going even in Tom Petty's vocal section is just embarassing. This to me is all Prince does... takes techincal riffs, peices them together and wanks away.

F*ck Prince.

Necromancer · 06-06-2011, 08:08 PM

What do you think about his work in the studio? Do you think his dancing choreography ranks?

BastardofYoung · 06-06-2011, 08:15 PM

I do not know about choreography, that doesn't matter to me. The music to me is what counts, not the dancing surrounding it, so I really cannot comment on what I think of that aspect.

As for his studio work... I would say the same as his live work. Not to say he is not a good musician in some rights, but he is also a mediocre songwriter and everything he does comes across to me as pompous and superficial. I just cannot take him seriously, in anything he does. I cannot be bothered to listen to his music be it on CD or on stage. I think with the right producer though, anything can sound good, but it doesn't mean the material itself is good.

Necromancer · 06-06-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

I do not know about choreography, that doesn't matter to me. The music to me is what counts, not the dancing surrounding it, so I really cannot comment on what I think of that aspect.

As for his studio work... I would say the same as his live work. Not to say he is not a good musician in some rights, but he is also a mediocre songwriter and everything he does comes across to me as pompous and superficial. I just cannot take him seriously, in anything he does. I cannot be bothered to listen to his music be it on CD or on stage. I think with the right producer though, anything can sound good, but it doesn't mean the material itself is good.

What would you say if I suggested that Prince is a music prodigy and masters at least thirteen different musical instruments?

BastardofYoung · 06-06-2011, 08:51 PM

Just means he has 13 instruments to wank on.

Jeff Martin in The Tea Party played over 20 on "Edges of Twilight".

Necromancer · 06-06-2011, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BastardofYoung

Just means he has 13 instruments to wank on.

Jeff Martin in The Tea Party played over 20 on "Edges of Twilight".

And Steely Dan spent two years in the studio and used 34 different studio musicians, in the making of their album Gaucho. Which only included seven songs, period.

BastardofYoung · 06-06-2011, 09:21 PM

unless you are an orchestra, who needs that many musicians? Another reason why I have never been able to get into the whole Prog thing I suppose.

06-06-2011, 07:34 PM	#32 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	29. Are you challenging my thoughts on Prince or are you saying he does not fit in? Cause yeah, Prince to me is just... pathetic. The ultimate in wankery crap. Everything he does embodies this. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-06-2011, 08:01 PM	#34 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Yeah. Never got the appeal or why people kiss his ass. The people who say he is a great guitarist bother me most, he wasn't. All he did was take wanker techincal licks piece them together and show his hendrixisms.. but his riffs were no better than those guys who work at the local guitar shop and play riffs on their lunch break. I mean watch him in this and say he is not a wanker: just show off bullsit. First off, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" doesn't need a two and a half minute solo... and the way he keeps going even in Tom Petty's vocal section is just embarassing. This to me is all Prince does... takes techincal riffs, peices them together and wanks away. Fck Prince. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-06-2011, 08:15 PM	#36 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	I do not know about choreography, that doesn't matter to me. The music to me is what counts, not the dancing surrounding it, so I really cannot comment on what I think of that aspect. As for his studio work... I would say the same as his live work. Not to say he is not a good musician in some rights, but he is also a mediocre songwriter and everything he does comes across to me as pompous and superficial. I just cannot take him seriously, in anything he does. I cannot be bothered to listen to his music be it on CD or on stage. I think with the right producer though, anything can sound good, but it doesn't mean the material itself is good. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-06-2011, 08:51 PM	#38 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	Just means he has 13 instruments to wank on. Jeff Martin in The Tea Party played over 20 on "Edges of Twilight". __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-06-2011, 09:21 PM	#40 (permalink)
BastardofYoung Buzz Killjoy Join Date: May 2011 Location: Canada Posts: 2,692	unless you are an orchestra, who needs that many musicians? Another reason why I have never been able to get into the whole Prog thing I suppose. __________________ last.fm ‎"I hope that someday we will be able to put away our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." - Jack Handey.

06-06-2011, 08:08 PM	#35 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	What do you think about his work in the studio? Do you think his dancing choreography ranks?