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Old 08-14-2019, 08:09 PM   #81 (permalink)
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are you against all artists that do one thing, but really well?
Depends. Why?
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:23 PM   #82 (permalink)
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He's against artists who do things he doesn't like presumably.
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Old 08-14-2019, 08:37 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I don't need an artist to evolve their sound, if I like the core formula

it would be really weird if Ramones did

they're not that type of band
Even a likeable core formula can be rehashed into mediocrity. I wouldn't be so hard on them if they only released one or two albums.
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Even a likeable core formula can be rehashed into mediocrity. I wouldn't be so hard on them if they only released one or two albums.
See the thing with the Ramones is that they released three perfect albums before doing anything else. Like, literally three completely perfect albums, 90 minutes of pure perfection, that even in 2019 feels like if you like what the Ramones were doing at the time then you have an hour and a half of exactly that to throw on repeat as if Satan were tempting you with punk.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:18 PM   #85 (permalink)
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They're aight.
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Old 08-19-2019, 08:11 PM   #86 (permalink)
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About as stripped down as metal gets without being actual punk.

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Old 08-20-2019, 07:47 AM   #87 (permalink)
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Using Bat's criteria in his opening statement, I'd have to go with Motorhead. However Lemmy would argue that Motorhead was not a Metal band. Just a Rock 'n Roll band. The thing that Motorhead shared with The Ramones was they never changed their sound. Lemmy stuck to formula the same way The Ramones did. Furthermore Lemmy was also a huge fan of The Ramones, obviously. R.A.M.O.N.E.S. Ramones!!

We wanna be like Status Quo and go on forever. Chuck Berry never changed. Little Richard never changed. I’d rather be like that and stick to a formula we’re happy with. -- Lemmy Kilmister (ZigZag, 1980)

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First thing I thought as soon as I saw the thread.

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Old 08-28-2019, 05:34 AM   #88 (permalink)
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First thing I thought as soon as I saw the thread.

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To further expound on Bat's criteria, for me anyway, Motorhead was a classic example of just a raw rock 'n roll sound. Were they the first of their kind? No, but neither were The Ramones. Yet both bands had that sound where people would say, "oh yeah, that's Motorhead... that's The Ramones".

I recall the week Lemmy died and reading a lot of internet eulogies from his peers through various social media outlets and a couple of different quotes from Jeff Ament and Lars Ulrich saying that Motorhead was a band that both Punk rockers and Metal heads could agree with each other about. That feud was real back in the day. Like the story behind the Black Sabbath song "Fairies Wear Boots" being about a fight between members of Sabbath and some Punk fans. But I digress.

Point is, Motorhead exemplified what I think Bat is trying to point out about The Ramones in his opening post, in my opinion, even if Lemmy didn't consider his own band to be Metal. They still carved their place among the masses that bridged a gap between Punk and Metal with a sound that was their own.
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"oh yeah, that's Motorhead... that's The Ramones".
That defines it to me.
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Old 08-29-2019, 02:03 PM   #90 (permalink)
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I’d pretty much have to go with Black Sabbath as the metal Ramones. Pioneers who defined a genre that others have taken and developed and refined. As far as I’m aware their whole concept was to make horror music which is metal at its core.
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