Modern Rock In Just Nine Songs

Neapolitan · 06-09-2019, 10:07 PM

I can't stand the Pixies. Not after Black Francis' over-the-top fanboyism antics.

Yeah, Black Francis of the Pixies was bigger fame-wise, but D. Boon was bigger weight-wise. D. Boon never got as big as Black Francis fame-wise though Black Francis tried to get bigger than D. Boon weight-wise, but failed. Anyway D. Boon was way cooler and aint nothin' can take that away from him.

Minutemen - History Lesson - Part II

OccultHawk · 06-09-2019, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

I can't stand the Pixies. Not after Black Francis' over-the-top fanboyism antics.

Yeah, Black Francis of the Pixies was bigger fame-wise, but D. Boon was bigger weight-wise. D. Boon never got as big as Black Francis fame-wise though Black Francis tried to get bigger than D. Boon weight-wise, but failed. Anyway D. Boon was way cooler and aint nothin' can take that away from him.

Minutemen - History Lesson - Part II

What reason do you have to compare the two?

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King's X were hit 'n miss but I always thought this leadoff track from 1989's Gretchen Goes To Nebraska was a couple years ahead of the alternative rock curve.

OK

That was really random.

Anteater · 06-09-2019, 10:43 PM

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OK

That was really random.

I saw your Dinosaur Jr. post and realized that I discovered King's X around the same time I was listening to their late 80's stuff. At the time I was going into a lot of funk metal, experimental Sonic Youth-esque stuff and real early alt-rock.

Neapolitan · 06-09-2019, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

What reason do you have to compare the two?

Probably none, or none I can articulate. It's not so much a comparison, as it is to prove a point. Well it basically come down to all I hear about is how everybody imitates the Pixies: Nirvana ... or whoever ... maybe every other 90s alt-Rock band ... etc etc. Well look at who's imitating who. Black Francis has literally stolen D Boon's look.

One could create an equally convincing argument that Nirvana borrowed from the Minutemen and bands from the same era just like some argue that Kurt took from the Pixies.

OccultHawk · 06-10-2019, 12:12 AM

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One could create an equally convincing argument that Nirvana borrowed from the Minutemen and bands from the same era just like some argue that Kurt took from the Pixies.

Did you mean to write:

One could create an equally convincing argument that The Pixies borrowed from the Minutemen and bands from the same era just like some argue that Kurt took from the Pixies.

?

Lisnaholic · 06-10-2019, 07:18 AM

Well, it's nice to see some more members adding something to this thread. Is it just happenstance or is it because Pixies are a band that generate more response? Looks like the latter to me: popular bands get overplayed or over-rated and then comes a resentful backlash....

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Probably none, or none I can articulate. It's not so much a comparison, as it is to prove a point. Well it basically come down to all I hear about is how everybody imitates the Pixies: Nirvana ... or whoever ... maybe every other 90s alt-Rock band ... etc etc. Well look at who's imitating who. Black Francis has literally stolen D Boon's look.

^ Yep, plenty of superficial similarity there, Neapolitan.

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fictional job interview

Lisna (business owner who needs an engineer): So, tell me about your education.

Engineer: Well, I decided on MIT and just completed my Engineering Doctorate a few weeks ago.

Lisna: *groan* Sounds like somebody spent a little too much time at the Massachusetts Institution of (adds sarcastic tone) Technology.

^ LOL at your scenario, OH ! Perhaps we can't agree on the merits of Monkey Gone To Heaven, or of Lou Reed as a model for vocalists, so I thought I'd move on to Song #4, which we can both enthuse about:-

Song #4: Pavement - Summer Babe (1992)

^ It's obviously the guitar which makes this track, and I love everything about it: the tone, the attack and the way it's centre-stage throughout. This is a band I might play more of, hoping that Summer Babe is typical of their style. Good rec, Mo and OH

OccultHawk · 06-10-2019, 08:17 AM

That song always felt like a sequel to this one to me

It even evokes a similar feeling (in me at least)

Lisnaholic · 06-10-2019, 05:23 PM

^ Yes, I just played those songs back to back and the one seemed to follow on pretty well from the other.

Hopping to Pavement's second album, I've just listened to this song, which weaves a bit of Buddy Holly into their distorted sound. Nice.

Oriphiel · 06-10-2019, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Black Francis of the Pixies was bigger fame-wise, but D. Boon was bigger weight-wise. D. Boon never got as big as Black Francis fame-wise though Black Francis tried to get bigger than D. Boon weight-wise, but failed.

Neapolitan · 06-11-2019, 01:05 AM

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Well, it's nice to see some more members adding something to this thread. Is it just happenstance or is it because Pixies are a band that generate more response? Looks like the latter to me: popular bands get overplayed or over-rated and then comes a resentful backlash....

For the most part none of that. I don't know how popular Pixies were. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I haven't heard so much of them on radio or wherever else (like at the shopping mall) to say they were overplayed.

If certain fans want to laud their bands like they're rooting for their football team than that is their prerogative. If I poke a little fun at that don't peg me as being "resentful."
(Your mockery of Pixies is so resentful.)

If a band gets over-rated then the over-raters are oblivious fans fanatical about their favorite bands obliviously. It's possible for people to disagrees with the over-rating without it coming down to "backlashing."

If I picked seven bands and seven songs, and they weren't to your liking, I wouldn't consider it backlashing.

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Did you mean to write:

One could create an equally convincing argument that The Pixies borrowed from the Minutemen and bands from the same era just like some argue that Kurt took from the Pixies.

?

No. It was to do with who is doing the influencing on bands e.g. like Nirvana: Pixies or other Post-Punk, and Hardcore bands. If you're under the belief that Pixies was an all influencing band, then fine that is your opinion. Just don't dismiss that there were other bands before them that could have been also influential.

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Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	^ Yes, I just played those songs back to back and the one seemed to follow on pretty well from the other. Hopping to Pavement's second album, I've just listened to this song, which weaves a bit of Buddy Holly into their distorted sound. Nice. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953