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Old 12-01-2009, 03:10 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Kind of sad considering Wes Borland is actually a pretty decent guitarist.

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Those bands helped define those genres. I don't see RATM as a seminal nu-metal band. Nu-metal wasn't born until KoRn and the gang came along...
In my opinion Nu-Metal wasn't born when korn and the gang came along, the term may have just be coined then.

The term was actually coined in 95' by spin magazine in an article about Coal Chamber.

In my opinion RATM is Rap Metal band, not nu-metal, and I do beleive there is a difference. But you know you could think differently because to me genre is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:43 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Kind of sad considering Wes Borland is actually a pretty decent guitarist.
Really? Wtf is going on then? Does he owe Durst a lot of drug money or something? Why doesn't he play good music with his guitar? Also, in another band he might not be made to dress up like somebody's fucking grinder monkey.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:45 PM   #133 (permalink)
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I see where your coming from but just because you're good at an instruments doesn't meanyou'll do good things with it.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:49 PM   #134 (permalink)
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i thought they were decent. I liked their cover of behind blue eyes.
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:52 PM   #135 (permalink)
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i thought they were decent. I liked their cover of behind blue eyes.
Why does anybody like that song?
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Old 12-01-2009, 03:56 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Why doesn't he play good music with his guitar? Also, in another band he might not be made to dress up like somebody's fucking grinder monkey.
because that doesn't pay the bills.

name me another well known modern guitarist that makes a living just playing solo guitar. someone who didn't start by backing another person's band (steve vai), or in the 80s (satriani / malmsteen)

that leaves... buckethead

and the last time i checked that dude still had to dress up like someone's effing grinder monkey to get people to pay attention to his guitar...

also if people want to split hairs between nu-metal and rap-metal. rap-metal still started in 1987, 4 years before RATM.



technically Aerosmith and Run DMC doing 'Walk this Way' predates this single by a couple of months but that hardly counts considering it's basically just a mash up of two distinct songs taking turns for the listeners attention and not at all metal.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:17 PM   #137 (permalink)
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because that doesn't pay the bills.

name me another well known modern guitarist that makes a living just playing solo guitar. someone who didn't start by backing another person's band (steve vai), or in the 80s (satriani / malmsteen)
I'ts pretty obvious to me that the LB guitarist couldn't make a living as a solo guitarist - certainly not anywhere near the level of the 80s virtuosos anyway.

I'm just saying his bills must be pretty huge (hence my drug money comment) to justify playing such shitty music in such an unappealing band. Not to mention the humiliation of being costume-guy. Maybe he could earn a modest salary playing in a less horrible band.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:23 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Maybe he'sjust into that kind of ****ty music, like I said, people who are good at things don't always use them for good, look at Hitler.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #139 (permalink)
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I always thought of Limp Bizkit as being one of the most Nu-Metal bands around, as their rapping influence was a dominant feature on most of their albums. Whereas, in some of the other groups like Korn this sound was far less obvious.

I don`t think Limp Bizkit are a very good group though, certainly not as good as Korn, despite that fact, I do like some of their songs though. Also they helped give the Nu-Metal genre a lot of energy and vibrancy.
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Old 12-01-2009, 05:41 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Maybe he'sjust into that kind of ****ty music, like I said, people who are good at things don't always use them for good, look at Hitler.
Yea I know. The man can be talented and have bad taste. It happens.
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