Metallica ...and justice for all

youdoofus · 01-08-2019, 02:29 PM

What up yall? first post here, and im sorry if this has already been discussed, but i didnt see a thread for it. The album in the thread title (Metallica ...and justice for all) seems to have a remixed version with Jasons bass guitar mixed in properly from the masters. Anyone know if this is just legend or does it exist? I already own 3 copies of it and dont want to buy a 4th if its just a cleaned up version without the bass guitar mixed in like it should have been from day 1. Thanks in advance!!

~~MicShazam~~ · 01-08-2019, 02:34 PM

If you're thinking of the new official remaster, then don't expect to hear any more bass than on the original version. I don't think Metallica will ever back down on that. As far as I know, you will only ever hear Jason's bass clearly in a few of those tracks on Youtube remixed based Guitar Hero tracks, which means it's far from all of the album that even exists in that form.

The new official remaster sounds mostly indistinguishable from the original imo

~~Dude111~~ · 01-08-2019, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

If you're thinking of the new official remaster, then don't expect to hear any more bass than on the original version. I don't think Metallica will ever back down on that.

No they wanted it like that....... @ woodstock 94 they played the songs from that album THE SAME WAY!!

They sound good to me....... I have a cassette I got from Poland which is goregous sounding.. No dolby crap on the tape and it sure sounds like a direct analogue copy from the master reel..... (They used analogue on all thier 80s records)

~~MicShazam~~ · 01-09-2019, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

No they wanted it like that....... @ woodstock 94 they played the songs from that album THE SAME WAY!!

They sound good to me....... I have a cassette I got from Poland which is goregous sounding.. No dolby crap on the tape and it sure sounds like a direct analogue copy from the master reel..... (They used analogue on all thier 80s records)

I'm sure Hetfield and at the very least Ulrich wanted it like that. But I'm curious what you mean by two things:

1) what do you mean they played it that way at woodstock 94? That they played it with Jason turned all the way down? Or did he just sit and eat a pizza while the rest of the band played the show?

2) what do you mean by "Dolby crap"?

youdoofus · 01-09-2019, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I'm sure Hetfield and at the very least Ulrich wanted it like that. But I'm curious what you mean by two things:

1) what do you mean they played it that way at woodstock 94? That they played it with Jason turned all the way down? Or did he just sit and eat a pizza while the rest of the band played the show?

2) what do you mean by "Dolby crap"?

1: BAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!! NICE!!!

2: dolby is seen by some purists as the devils work. Noise reduction is an algorithm that looks for certain sounds and eliminates them. When i was a kid, i actually preferred the hissing sound of a cassette to a cd. Probably because of what i was used to listening to at the time. I was a weird kid

but i also prefer a .wav to a 320kbps mp3 all day long

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I don't know how to actually find those things, much less in good quality. Maybe write a PM to one of the Youtubers that have made a quality remaster?

yeah, i know man. the sad truth is that if the group doesnt want a remaster with Jasons slider on the mixer brought up a bit, we will never get it, and thats a total shame. One would think that after 30 years theyd pull their collective heads out of their butts and appease the old school OG fans who made them as popular as they are

also, this forum should implement a like or thanks button because you guys/gals all rock and i really appreciate every response

~~Dude111~~ · 01-09-2019, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

I'm sure Hetfield and at the very least Ulrich wanted it like that. But I'm curious what you mean by two things:

1) what do you mean they played it that way at woodstock 94? That they played it with Jason turned all the way down? Or did he just sit and eat a pizza while the rest of the band played the show?

2) what do you mean by "Dolby crap"?

Well he was right about Dolby.... Noise reduction crap,can make it sound worse....

None of my 8 tracks have dolby and they all sound goregous.... Some of my cassettes do not either....... (Its easier avoiding it on 8 tracks as more were made be4 they started doing that)

And at woodstock 94 the songs sounded the same as far as bass as they do on my tape.. (And how I always remember those particular songs)

youdoofus · 01-09-2019, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

Well he was right about Dolby.... Noise reduction crap,can make it sound worse....

None of my 8 tracks have dolby and they all sound goregous.... Some of my cassettes do not either....... (Its easier avoiding it on 8 tracks as more were made be4 they started doing that)

And at woodstock 94 the songs sounded the same as far as bass as they do on my tape.. (And how I always remember those particular songs)

i wonder what, if any, noise reduction they used on .wavs found on cds

The Batlord · 01-08-2019, 02:39 PM

Nah there's a fan remaster somewhere on Youtube with the bass mixed higher.

~~MicShazam~~ · 01-08-2019, 02:41 PM

That's the guitar hero based remasters I'm referring to. There's several attempts. But I was of the impression that they do not have access to the separated instrument tracks for any tracks other than those that were available in guitar hero? I might be wrong.

The Batlord · 01-08-2019, 02:42 PM

Why wouldn't they have access to the tracks when they could just be burned from a CD?

01-08-2019, 02:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
youdoofus Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 108	Metallica ...and justice for all What up yall? first post here, and im sorry if this has already been discussed, but i didnt see a thread for it. The album in the thread title (Metallica ...and justice for all) seems to have a remixed version with Jasons bass guitar mixed in properly from the masters. Anyone know if this is just legend or does it exist? I already own 3 copies of it and dont want to buy a 4th if its just a cleaned up version without the bass guitar mixed in like it should have been from day 1. Thanks in advance!!

01-08-2019, 02:34 PM	#2 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	If you're thinking of the new official remaster, then don't expect to hear any more bass than on the original version. I don't think Metallica will ever back down on that. As far as I know, you will only ever hear Jason's bass clearly in a few of those tracks on Youtube remixed based Guitar Hero tracks, which means it's far from all of the album that even exists in that form. The new official remaster sounds mostly indistinguishable from the original imo

01-08-2019, 02:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	That's the guitar hero based remasters I'm referring to. There's several attempts. But I was of the impression that they do not have access to the separated instrument tracks for any tracks other than those that were available in guitar hero? I might be wrong.