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Trollheart 05-07-2018 10:22 AM

MB Metal Classics: "Altars of Madness" by Morbid Angel
 
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Time for another one. Thanks to Mondo we got this. What say yaz?

MicShazam 05-07-2018 04:08 PM

I think this band is mostly boring, but I guess I can't remember much of the first one. Listening to old florida DM usually feels like a chore to me.

The Batlord 05-07-2018 04:13 PM

The riffs are sick, the songs are catchy as ****, and the atmosphere is magnifico. First DM album I ever loved and it was my favorite for a long number of years. Close the thread already and give them the shoe-in.

MicShazam 05-07-2018 04:28 PM

Nein!

It deserves a chance to fail.

Trollheart 05-07-2018 05:11 PM

It's got a week, the same as any other album. You ****ers want it in, then do the V thing.

MicShazam 05-07-2018 11:35 PM

I agree, do like the Romans and give it a V for 5.

The Batlord 05-08-2018 02:52 AM

I see, so you lack a basic understanding of metal riffs in general.

MicShazam 05-08-2018 03:17 AM

Maybe, maybe not. I'm just trolling so far, since I can't remember how this particular album sounds. Let's discuss how much I do or don't know about this **** when I've given my thoughts on this album. (Soon enough).

Trollheart 05-08-2018 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1948117)
I agree, do like the Romans and give it a V for 5.

or for Victory.

I remember originally listening to Morbid Angel and hating them, then on one of the Metal Months I really listened, and was pretty much blown away by Trey's guitar work. Haven't listened to this yet; don't expect miracles but I'll do my best to give it a fair vote.

Ol’ Qwerty Bastard 05-08-2018 09:32 AM

ditto to what Bat said. first death metal album i truly loved. actually used it to get two of my close friends into the genre as well. just so ****in riff heavy, perfect album for when you’re not really in the mood to be challenged but want some straight kick ass death metal.

Mondo Bungle 05-08-2018 02:19 PM

one of those indisputable 10s if you ask me, for its massive impact and significance and just the fact that it is literally sick 100% of the way through

I always thought it was something even more special since it came so early, making the already original instrumentation even more impressive and spectacular. Guitar, drums, and vocals more on point than anything at the time. Atmosphere obscure and unmatched.

It sounds like the cover.

The Batlord 05-08-2018 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1948407)
one of those indisputable 10s if you ask me, for its massive impact and significance and just the fact that it is literally sick 100% of the way through

I always thought it was something even more special since it came so early, making the already original instrumentation even more impressive and spectacular. Guitar, drums, and vocals more on point than anything at the time. Atmosphere obscure and unmatched.

It sounds like the cover.

How dost thou rate Formulas Fatal to the Flesh?

Trollheart 05-08-2018 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1948410)
How dost thou rate Formulas Fatal to the Flesh?

Crap! Batty's been trapped in the Dark Ages again! Who has a time machine handy? Anyone?

Mondo Bungle 05-08-2018 02:39 PM

I'm gonna admit that I used to say Blessed are the Sick was my favorite MA album just cuz I like rooting for the underdog, although I do reeeaaallllyy love that one, but Altars has to get that spot. So Blessed would be number two, and I'd put Formulas confidently in the third spot if not even a tie for 2, cuz it's a totally different animal honestly. It comes through with an even more unorthodox and complex display of musicianship and composition than Altars combined with the spruced up quality giving it a heaviness that surpasses any given ice giant.

so I guess I'd rate it no less than 8/10 and probably their heaviest album if we were to theoretically weigh them.

I need to better acquaint myself with Covenant if we're being real, Domination is cool but kinda eh for an MA release though not without some interesting elements, Gateways is Domination-esque musically but better in every way and mad heavy (not on par with Formulas heaviness), Heretic has sucky production and is a little whack sure but I always thought it had a certain cryptic charm, I've never even listened to a full song from Illud and I don't see that ever changing, and Kingdoms is a musical return to the mid era style but nowhere near as excellent so it's just solid.

MicShazam 05-08-2018 02:51 PM

I think the most exciting part of this album is the drums. They sound really good compared to a lot of compressed/triggered/plastic-bucket drum tracks on death metal albums from all four decades of the genre's existence. On this album, the drums sound lively and dynamic. The high hats and cymbals stepp in character and there's some low end to the kick drum. Hard to explain what it is really - the drums just sound good to me on this album.
They're also played in this sort of loose-but-not-amateurish manner that has a lot of character.

So that's a good thing about the album.

You can hear the bass, but it's got sort of vimpy tone, except when it plays in the lowest register. It's fine though. It just supports the riffs, so it works. It's not supposed to stand out on it's own.

The vocals are fine. A fair bit of power and variety. Better than a monotonous grunting thing.

The guitars sound fine and all, but the riffs are seriously hit and miss for me here. For every grinding, blood gargling skull crusher, there's a lame, cookie cutter death metal riff of the sort that sounds less menacing than goofy.

I'm not really a fan of this band to be honest. Their later albums mostly bore me to death. I can't even listen to the Covenant album without my mind wandering every two minutes.

This album is maybe one of the best of their I've heard. I also like some things on Heretic, even if it sounds so cardboard flat that it's considerably less heavy than it ought to be.

Altars of Madness may be a classic in death metal circles, but I'm no big fan of the genre and I'll always insist on rating according to my own tastes.

That means this album gets a fair grade, but nothing more.

It's got some bright spots, some fun drumming... but nothing I'll ever feel like returning to if I'm being perfectly honest.

I'll be listening to some Nile instead, thank you very much.

5

The Batlord 05-08-2018 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1948445)
I need to better acquaint myself with Covenant if we're being real

Covenant's good, but a lot of it feels like diminishing returns from Altars of Madness and the sludgey elements were underdeveloped to take their music to the next level. It's got some great **** but in general it's "solid".

The Sane Psycho 05-11-2018 06:01 PM

Everyone and they're grandmother already talks about how much of a defining landmark this is in the death metal genre, so I won't. Instead, I just want to talk about something I miss from older bands that I don't hear as often in modern death metal; that classic thrash sound. You could chalk that up to the genre evolving as all genres do, but damn it, I really love '80s thrash metal. This is essentially a Slayer album with more growly vocals. And these guys are ****ing great at that style. And I love it. A DM masterpiece for sure.

Trollheart 05-12-2018 09:36 AM

Mega-riffs, cool melodies, great ideas, even vocals I can handle. Superb. I'm not familiar enough with death metal to be able to comment on how this changed the genre, but I'll bow to the expertise of those who have more knowledge about DM than I do about dad jokes, and I can see how it would have been a game changer at the time. Must listen to more. Voted 10.

Trollheart 05-14-2018 05:54 PM

No surprise this made it in, too. :band:

Anteater 05-15-2018 08:34 PM

Swoll album. That's all she wrote.


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