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View Poll Results: Blizzard of Ozz or Heaven & Hell?
Ozzy Osbourne - Blizzard of Ozz 7 70.00%
Black Sabbath - Heaven & Hell 3 30.00%
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Blizzard of Ozz or Heaven & Hell?

Two remarkable heavy metal classics from 1980, one with Dio and Iommi, other with Ozzy and Randy.

Pick a side here.
For me H&H all day, every day.
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Didn’t we do this one already?
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Heaven & Hell, easily. I don't really think Blizzard is all that great. It's got a couple classic tracks, but Heaven & Hell plays beautifully as an album. It's very atmospheric and just works a lot better for me as a front-to-back play than Blizzard does. Diary of a Madman was where Ozzy pulled off a really solid album.
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Blizzard because of Randy Rhoads and my dislike of Dio. I think I've said on here before that Randy Rhoads is like the guitarist equivalent of Superbad: phenomenal on their own but they sparked a massive wave of unsuccessful imitators that made a lot of the work in that genre unbearably bad.
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Blizzard because of Randy Rhoads and my dislike of Dio. I think I've said on here before that Randy Rhoads is like the guitarist equivalent of Superbad: phenomenal on their own but they sparked a massive wave of unsuccessful imitators that made a lot of the work in that genre unbearably bad.
If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking then: No, that is not the fault of Randy Rhoads, that is the fault of MTV.
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If you're thinking of what I think you're thinking then: No, that is not the fault of Randy Rhoads, that is the fault of MTV.
When you’re judging legacy the music the artist inspired does matter.

It’s not the only factor but it’s one.
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Hendrix > Page/Beck/Clapton > Bolin > EVH > Rhoads > Malmsteen/Satriani/Vai

"How to play Insane Rock Guitar for Dummies" right there.
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Hendrix > Page/Beck/Clapton > Bolin > EVH > Rhoads > Malmsteen/Satriani/Vai

"How to play Insane Rock Guitar for Dummies" right there.
I know this will mean bubkes cause Jimmy Page isn't on the list, but here it goes anyways

How to play Rock Guitar according to Steve Howe:
  • Wes Montgomery
  • Chet Atkins
  • Les Paul
  • Tal Farlow
  • Hank Marvin (The Shadows)
  • Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys*
  • Bill Haley & His Comets*
(*forgot the guitar players, & pedal steel player names, but those groups were still influential.)
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Steve Howe is not a rock guitarist. Yes (pun) he played loud and with some distortion, but he went well out of his way to avoid any rock guitar cliches.

All of your Howe influences are 100% spot on though. Leon McAuliffe and Franny Beecher are the names you're missing. Speedy West was also a huge influence.

After hearing CTTE I became a certified Howe junkie. Sold my LP and bought a semi-hollow jazz box and ended up playing Siberian Khatru and All Good People in my late 70s band.

He was so damn hard to ape because his style was so removed from all of the rock of that era. Hell, on the entire Tormato album he didn't use any vibrato - at all.

During the 70s when Page was winning 'Best Rock Guitarist' in the annual Guitar Player magazine polls, Howe was winning every year for 'Best Overall Guitarist'.

My fave Howe track of all time is an outtake that never made one of Yes' official studio recordings. Yes he rocks, but he's not playing rock licks in the traditional sense.

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Examples of those bad imitators?

Btw, for the record: I don't like anything Dio has ever done, except Heaven & Hell and Mob Rules. Screw his solo career and the last couple albums he did with Tony Iommi.
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