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Old 12-17-2017, 11:13 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Old 12-18-2017, 03:38 AM   #62 (permalink)
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the further left you go the more anti-authoritarian you get

classical liberalism was an opposition to tyranny from monarchy

modern liberalism was an opposition to tyranny from private oligarchies ie Corporations

in the modern context that means more public control in the economy but "less gov" or "more gov" are not the defining aspects of these ideologies
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Old 12-18-2017, 08:45 AM   #63 (permalink)
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the problem with it is that's absolutely false and not at all what right and left mean
That's why I defined exactly what I meant by left and right. And from that starting point the discussion is relatively easy if you agree to those terms. If not, we use different terms.

You posted some terms in the following post that were a little but nutters, but I'd be happy to go with something like conservative, liberal and socialist.
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Old 12-18-2017, 10:10 AM   #65 (permalink)
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oh god i ****in’ hate him. has anyone seen the stupid Alexa thing yet?
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:31 AM   #66 (permalink)
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That's why I defined exactly what I meant by left and right. And from that starting point the discussion is relatively easy if you agree to those terms. If not, we use different terms.

You posted some terms in the following post that were a little but nutters, but I'd be happy to go with something like conservative, liberal and socialist.
Why would we agree to use incorrect terminology? The onus should be on you to make sense.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:32 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Why would we agree to use incorrect terminology? The onus should be on you to make sense.
Because it's more convenient for the stance he wants to promote, duh.
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Old 12-18-2017, 11:51 AM   #68 (permalink)
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oh god i ****in’ hate him. has anyone seen the stupid Alexa thing yet?
I'm not sure I could handle that right now. People like Crowder make me feel very annoyed.
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