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Texas Boy 12-05-2017 05:18 PM

Is Pantera overrated or not?
 
I think they are very overrated in the world of metal.

Akai 12-05-2017 05:26 PM

lol

Thelonious Monkey 12-05-2017 05:27 PM

Of course.

Paul Smeenus 12-05-2017 06:05 PM

IMO they released one great album (VDoP) and one good album (FBD) with one gawdawful track, GF&aBoP. The early albums are truly terrible.

Thelonious Monkey 12-05-2017 06:09 PM

I say just listen to their greatest hits albums and be done with them.

Maajo 12-05-2017 08:48 PM

Yeah, but only because of the sheer number of people who think they're the best band of the 90s. I like Vulgar and Far Beyond Driven quite a bit though.

Blank. 12-05-2017 09:37 PM

They have great instrumentals, but I always struggled to get past Anselmo's vocal delivery. so, yes they are overrated.

Akai 12-05-2017 10:10 PM

Subjective option aside;

All great players in their own right and as a unit,
Wrote some great music,
Inspired millions,
Played the largest metal show in history,
Created a sub-genre,
Breakdown to Domination

(IMO) Not overrated or underrated.

Blank. 12-05-2017 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1901443)
Subjective option aside;

All great players in their own right and as a unit,
Wrote some great music,
Inspired millions,
Played the largest metal show in history,
Created a sub-genre,
Breakdown to Domination

Not overrated or underrated.

Calling something underrated or overrated is a subjective thing unto itself.

Akai 12-05-2017 10:14 PM

edited then

Neapolitan 12-05-2017 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blank. (Post 1901444)
Calling something underrated or overrated is a subjective thing unto itself.

Asking "if the are overrated or not" is comparing your sentiment about the band against everyone else. You are comparing your opinion against other people's opinion. Opinions are subjective, ja. But you don't have to buy into everyone else's opinion.

Just for the heck of it I googled "metal bands 90s" and Pantera was listed 2nd in the returns. They were between Metallica @1 and Slayer @3. Even "Metalsucks" ranks Pantera at #2, between Crazy Town and Korn. The 25 Most Important Metal Bands of the '90s Archives | MetalSucks

In general, against everyother Metal band, they rank up there but not as high as a 90s Metal band. Do you think they should?

Maajo 12-06-2017 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1901443)
Subjective option aside;

All great players in their own right and as a unit,
Wrote some great music,
Inspired millions,
Played the largest metal show in history,
Created a sub-genre,
Breakdown to Domination

(IMO) Not overrated or underrated.

I sort of have to agree with this. They all are really good musicians, and they created a LOT of good music, and they did inspire a lot of the heavier music today, especially in the groove metal genre though I wouldn't say it's limited to that. Where I sort of thought they were maybe a little bit overrated is probably in how they're perceived within metalhead communities. It's sort of like with Tool or Radiohead where there are people who have no off button where it comes to Pantera, and they ultimately compare the rest of the music world to them.

IMO they're more overrated than underrated, but if there was a neither option I would've or at least could've went with that.

Blue Hawk 12-06-2017 10:46 AM

'Power metal' > 90s pseudo-groove gay stuff.

The Batlord 12-06-2017 01:43 PM

They got some good **** but in general meh.

Frownland 12-06-2017 01:49 PM

When they were still active, I'd say they were overrated, but I don't think that time has been very kind to those corny mother****ers. I'd say they're about adequately rated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ziggy ''Frappanised'' Zappada (Post 1901443)
Subjective option aside;

All great players in their own right and as a unit,
Wrote some great music,

Ja, that's 100% subjective.

BastardofYoung 12-07-2017 12:16 AM



i still love this album, and especially this song. The outro solo is my favorite thing Dimebag ever did.

Dylstew 12-10-2017 03:29 PM

They have some great songs and did the groove metal thing better than most thrash bands did when they suddenly started playing slower. But I think they're inconsistent as ****.

JiggleMonster 12-13-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maajo (Post 1901434)
yeah, but only because of the sheer number of people who think they're the best band of the 90s. I like vulgar and far beyond driven quite a bit though.

+1

Chula Vista 12-13-2017 12:46 PM

Only own VDOP. Based on that, NFW!

riseagainstrocks 12-13-2017 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylstew (Post 1902545)
They have some great songs and did the groove metal thing better than most thrash bands did when they suddenly started playing slower. But I think they're inconsistent as ****.

This.

JiggleMonster 12-13-2017 08:30 PM

I like Pantera, but overrated none the less. Like any good band from the 90's.

Paul Smeenus 12-13-2017 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JiggleMonster (Post 1904012)
I like Pantera, but overrated none the less. Like any good band from the 90's.

All good 90's bands are overrated? :confused:

JiggleMonster 12-13-2017 09:06 PM

It's very subjective. But yeah, probably.

Mindy 12-23-2017 08:48 AM

Is Pantera overrated or not?. voted Yes.


Looks like I went with the crowd on this one :cool:

Akai 12-23-2017 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 1907507)
Is Pantera overrated or not?. voted Yes.


Looks like I went with the crowd on this one :cool:



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Mindy 12-23-2017 09:38 AM

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Norg 01-13-2018 10:44 PM

Pantera Kick Arse !!!!

to bad there career got cut short .... but they laid down some solid records IMO

MolotovCocktail69 07-17-2020 04:48 PM

Pantera brought about change that metal needed oh so badly.
And no little thread saying they're overrated is gonna change that fact.
Or big thread for that matter.

The Batlord 07-17-2020 07:36 PM

What change?

Norg 07-17-2020 11:25 PM

spotify does not even have the Records pre CFH days ...... were they that bad LOL

grindy 07-18-2020 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolotovCocktail69 (Post 2126793)
Pantera brought about change that metal needed oh so badly.
And no little thread saying they're overrated is gonna change that fact.
Or big thread for that matter.

Would a giant thread do it?

Neapolitan 07-18-2020 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MolotovCocktail69 (Post 2126793)
Pantera brought about change that metal needed oh so badly.
And no little thread saying they're overrated is gonna change that fact.
Or big thread for that matter.

Couldn't help but bring change, he had a bag full of dimes.

Inkdaub 07-22-2020 07:37 AM

I voted no.

I feel sort of bad about it because I can't stand Anselmo and am fairly ambivalent about Pantera musically.

Plankton 07-22-2020 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 2126844)
Couldn't help but bring change, he had a bag full of dimes.

That's gold (silver) right there. Can use that?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuqKHw3UcAAM1Ne.jpg:large

Psychedelic Revolution 01-28-2021 11:53 PM

Rated about right imho. Phil/Dime/Rex/Vinnie are very good at what they do. Also a Down fan.


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