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Old 11-27-2017, 07:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Saying that it's probably quite good implies that it isn't good, wouldn't you say?

Of course there's value in good production, but letting imperfect production soil your opinion of an album that still achieves what it aims to is an unfortunate way to appreciate music imo. Not everyone can have access to an adult contemporary's recording studio.
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:59 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Saying that it's probably quite good implies that it isn't good, wouldn't you say?
In this case it just means that I'm not all that familiar with this particular album yet. It seems solid, but I haven't heard the whole thing. I picked it because it was a good example of something that doesn't quite hit high on the heavy-scale for me, despite how it seems like it should, in many ways. I'm more familiar with a couple of their other albums, which, sound way more heavy to my ears.

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Of course there's value in good production, but letting imperfect production soil your opinion of an album that still achieves what it aims to is an unfortunate way to appreciate music imo. Not everyone can have access to an adult contemporary's recording studio.
It may still impress me in other ways. In fact, quite many albums that I love exhibit questionable production choices. Just like a lot of games that I like have ugly graphics, a lot movies that I like have bad acting, etc. I'm just going to let the "adult contemporary" thing slide
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Old 11-27-2017, 08:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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production in general is for suckers
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It's how the music sounds. How can't that be important when music is sound?
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My main beef with production comes when it sounds really grainy or you have to turn the volume up higher for some albums than others. Bad Brains' self-titled album and early releases by Venom come to mind. I'm willing to overlook that just because those are some badass collections of music, but they could stand a remaster. That Obituary album is heavy as hell to me, nothing wrong with that production.
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It's how the music sounds. How can't that be important when music is sound?
So long as you can hear what thw music is doing, it shouldn't matter. If I viewed good production as a requirement instead of a bonus I'd miss out on a lot of amazing stuff.
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So long as you can hear what thw music is doing, it shouldn't matter. If I viewed good production as a requirement instead of a bonus I'd miss out on a lot of amazing stuff.
I don't really agree. Like I care a lot about the character of the voice of a singer, I care about the whole soundscape of the music. Its neither the most important thing to me, nor unimportant. It's just one more of all the facets of music that play into what I will think about a piece. It is part of the experience, so of course it will impact the experience. I can't not hear the sound quality/the characteristics of the sound of an album.
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I don't really agree. Like I care a lot about the character of the voice of a singer, I care about the whole soundscape of the music. Its neither the most important thing to me, nor unimportant. It's just one more of all the facets of music that play into what I will think about a piece. It is part of the experience, so of course it will impact the experience. I can't not hear the sound quality/the characteristics of the sound of an album.
I guess that makes you a sucker.
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Production matters but it doesn’t have to match any certain criterion to work. Sometimes lush orchestrations or sonic landscapes work; sometimes recording with a boombox or an iPhone works.
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