Devo - the worst band from new wave/post punk scene?

Akai · 05-03-2017, 12:12 PM

**Janszoon** · 05-03-2017, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Just because music is subjective doesn't mean that the terminology is.

True, which is why Trollheart is right. Technically speaking, a song is a piece of music with words that are sung, even though many people use the word colloquially to mean any piece of music.

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

songs usually have words

Songs usually have words=/=songs inherently have words. Much in the same way that all metalheads don't have long hair despite it being a trend in that community.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You can't sing it, it ain't a song.

Does this count if I sing a song intended to be instrumental?

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

True, which is why Trollheart is right. Technically speaking, a song is a piece of music with words that are sung, even though many people use the word colloquially to mean any piece of music.

Definition: a musical piece adapted for singing or simulating a piece to be sung

At a certain point the colloquial forms of words become the formal version and this definition reflects that. I think that things have changed a bit since we've moved away from Old English.

**Janszoon** · 05-03-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Definition: a musical piece adapted for singing or simulating a piece to be sung

At a certain point the colloquial forms of words become the formal version and this definition reflects that. I think that things have changed a bit since we've moved away from Old English.

They sure have. For example, the word "song" didn't exist in Old English.

Trollheart · 05-03-2017, 12:40 PM

It was just a throwaway line, dude. Don't make a federal case of it. This is why I qualified my statement by saying "to me", which you then replied to with a frankly stupid analogy about stars. All the major dictionaries back me up on what I say, but as Zappy says, it is a trivial point and, you know, I got Hugo-award losing novels to write.

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 12:42 PM

Your qualification is invalid.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

They sure have. For example, the word "song" didn't exist in Old English.

So it just originated in Old English and was never heard from in that part of the linguicity again?

Online Etymology Dictionary

**Janszoon** · 05-03-2017, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Your qualification is invalid.

So it just originated in Old English and was never heard from in that part of the linguicity again?

Online Etymology Dictionary

Read your own link. The Old English word was "sang".

**Frownland** · 05-03-2017, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Read your own link. The Old English word was "sang".

Old English is different from modern English? You don't say...

Blank. · 05-03-2017, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrs. Tristan Rosenstock

Or because "I can't understand the vocals therefore the music is trash"

People use to say this to me so much. It was a massive irritant. I knew a kid in high school who said it about metal. Refused to hear me out.

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Originally Posted by Exo

"It isn't music if it doesn't have lyrics. Songs need lyrics man."

I've heard that a few times. Always amuses me.

That was going to be my response, then we had pages of arguing over trivial information. FFS.

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Originally Posted by Texas Boy

Devo just ****ing suck! Period.
Jocko Homo is one of the crappiest tunes I ever heard. I would rather listen to any Lady Gaga song than Jocko Homo.

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