Do you get such a big hype around Eddie Van Halen?

**Frownland** · 01-31-2017, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I'm just saying as far as I see it about 10X more visceral things were already being done with the guitar so you'd have to have a very narrow scope to be all that shocked by Van Halen's playing

You don't have to be more abrasive to be doing something new. Not to mention how important it is that both bands have hugely different sounds.

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The only way that Van Halen furthered punk is by being the posterboy for everything that punk is not.

I hate when you pull out the dense card. VH and their hits allowed FM radio stations all over the country to keep playing guitar centric, raunchy music. Why do you think The Clash broke so big back then?

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Is that VH1 aka Van Halen mach I or VH1 aka Video Hits One?

**Frownland** · 01-31-2017, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I hate when you pull out the dense card. VH and their hits allowed FM radio stations all over the country to keep playing guitar centric, raunchy music. Why do you think The Clash broke so big back then?

If you want to continue to make it painfully obvious how little you know about punk then go ahead, but don't pretend like the fault is on my end.

Neapolitan · 01-31-2017, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

You don't have to be more abrasive to be doing something new. Not to mention how important it is that both bands have hugely different sounds.

I think people misunderstand VU. I think the more import thing about the band was ideas John Cale brought into the band which come from drone and experimental music. (That's just my personal opinion.)

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 06:11 PM

I'm not a punk expert. I just know what was being played, and exposed to the masses, back in the late 70s.

Don't hate me cause I'm older than you.

Son.

Neapolitan · 01-31-2017, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

NEO:

Someone truly gets it.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I hate when you pull out the dense card. VH and their hits allowed FM radio stations all over the country to keep playing guitar centric, raunchy music. Why do you think The Clash broke so big back then?

Gottcha

Epic album.
One of the contributing factors for The Clash was that they at the time provided affordable albums. Plus they had their ear to what was happening in Jamaica (i.e. Dub music) and they were kinda popular in the R&B and hip hop crowd cause of it (early-stage of hip hop).

**Frownland** · 01-31-2017, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I'm not a punk expert.

We noticed.

Neapolitan · 01-31-2017, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I'm not a punk expert. I just know what was being played, and exposed to the masses, back in the late 70s.

Don't hate me cause I'm older than you.

Son.

Being able to admit that makes you more Punk than any of these poseurs. Here's looking at you elph

Chula Vista · 01-31-2017, 11:28 PM

In the late 70s I was in a band playing **** like Rush, UFO, Travers, Trower, Zep, Tull, Floyd, etc. I hated both disco and punk for ruining it for me. But at least I could relate to punk bands where the guitar player was up front playing loud and with distortion - and the music wasn't geared toward dancing.

The Batlord · 01-31-2017, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

I hated both disco and punk for ruining it for me.

Maybe you just sucked.

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Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	I'm not a punk expert. I just know what was being played, and exposed to the masses, back in the late 70s. Don't hate me cause I'm older than you. Son. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

01-31-2017, 11:28 PM	#49 (permalink)
Chula Vista Toasted Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: SoCal by way of Boston Posts: 11,332	In the late 70s I was in a band playing **** like Rush, UFO, Travers, Trower, Zep, Tull, Floyd, etc. I hated both disco and punk for ruining it for me. But at least I could relate to punk bands where the guitar player was up front playing loud and with distortion - and the music wasn't geared toward dancing. __________________ “The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well, on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”