Here's a Little Mathcore Survivor
 

I'm just putting it out right now. I imagine the number of people interested would be quite low. Like, five people? I dunno. I'll run it myself.

Cuz I have always been looking for the best of the best mathcore albums, personally. Small crowd or not it could still work maybe. Also I think I'll exclude Converge, too easy, would be a landslide just like in the metalcore survivor that already happened, it's already a winner anyway

1. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
2. Botch - We Are the Romans
3. Coalesce - Functioning on Impatience
4. Converge - Petitioning the Empty Sky
5. Genghis Tron - Board Up the House
6. Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker
7. Ion Dissonance - Breathing Is Irrelevant
8. Knut - Challenger
9. Nostromo - Ecce Lex
10. Psyopus - Our Puzzling Encounters Considered

Vote off 4, until December 5

Yeah alright.

What.

I'll participate in this.

I'd add these.

The Locust - Plague Soundcapes
Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics
Daughters - Daughters
Ghengis Tron - Board Up the House

Waddup Ki, missed you <3 <3 <3

No tomassi like Rolo Tomassi

I've never listened to Psyopus but they're one of the most known bands for mathcore

Does Creation Is Crucifixion count? Kiss It Goodbye should count, right?

I imagine so

Every Time I Die's first album too

Genghis and Rolo are great options

also thinking:

Gaza - I Don't Care Where I Go When I Die
Breather Resist - Charmer
Knut - Challenger
Psycho***ist - Songs of Faint and Distortion

Protest the Hero - Fortress
Between the Buried and Me - Colors
Nostromo - Ecce Lex
Fuck the Facts - Stigmata High-Five

I was unsure in calling PtH and BTBAM mathcore

I'm a lot more down with this than I thought I was when I first read the title. I still need to listen to about half of those albums though.

I've heard them called mathcore for as long as I've known about them from multiple sources.

i think of them as progressive metalcore, mathcore in my opinion is a different thing, absurdly erratic and confrontational heavy stuff, punker

BtBaM should definitely qualify at least. They have a lot of **** going on, but mathcore is still at the core of their sound.

I believe it

Parallax though

damn

There never was any kind of democratic method for deciding the list with the other survivors huh

Well here's what we've got. I bolded the ones that I feel should be included without a doubt, but it's already tough.

1. The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity
2. Botch - We are the Romans
3. Deadguy - Fixation on a Coworker
4. Norma Jean - Bless the Martyr and Kiss the Child
5. Coalesce - Functioning on Impatience
6. As the Sun Sets - Each Individual Voice is Dead in the Silence
7. Ion Dissonance - Breathing is Irrelevant
8. The Number Twelve Looks Like You - Mongrel
9. Curl Up and Die - The One Above All, the End of All that is
10. The Locust - Plague Soundcapes
11. Rolo Tomassi - Hysterics
12. Daughters - Daughters
13. Ghengis Tron - Board Up the House
14. Creation is Crucifixion - In Silico
15. Kiss it Goodbye - She Loves Me, She Loves Me Not
16. Every Time I Die - Last Night in Town
17. Gaza - I Don't Care Where I Go When I Die
18. Breather Resist - Charmer
19. Knut - Challenger
20. Psycho***ist - Songs of Faint and Distortion
21. Protest the Hero - Fortress
22. Between the Buried and Me - Colors
23. Nostromo - Ecce Lex
24. **** the Facts - Stigmata High-Five

I was at first thinking everyone could like, post their own personal top ten and then I'd arrange them by most spots, but with most likely not that many participants, that probably wouldn't be very fair. Like, if there's 15 albums with the same amount of votes, well that's not helping.

Or we could just do them all. Or even like 15, unl3ess that'd be too outrageous

Why the hell is The Locust on that list?

I always considered them to have mathcore elements. We don't have to include them.

it's just all of what people have posted

I'm on the fence about that but underneath all the synths, the Locust have absolutely insane and spastic technical grind. Rolo Tomassi rely on synths too but their mathcore is much more apparent.

Currently relistening to that Ion Dissonance album, and while it's pretty exhausting and mathy for the sake of being mathy, god damn is it intense. One thing the most brutal of mathcore has over grindcore is just has spastic it is, which ratchets up the intensity, even if it is at the cost of accessibility.

Their album Cursed is pretty cool, one of deathcore's best.

So Psyopus - Our Puzzling Encounters Considered is off the chain with wank, if we're talking exhausting math ass ****, they'd have to take the cake. I dunno if they're guitarist even does anything aside from lightning finger taps.

It's cool though.

It's entirely possible that this is the first mathcore I ever heard, and one of the first metalcore songs in general. Still a pretty good tune and that rhythm guitar they keep going back to is one of the high points of the genre. Too bad they generally cross so far into wank territory that it kills some of the intensity.

No one wanks like Brain Drill though

I bought their first album when it came out purely on the basis of their name. Was decent but disposable but also kinda funny in just how ridiculously wanky it was. I remember digging this song though.

Also, Brain Drill were somehow involved in a discussion that led to me hitting on an obvious lesbian.

In regards to the list, no matter how much love I have for the Norma Jean album, I dunno if it's mathcore in the way everything else is. So we could knock that one off. Psycho***ist I think is closer to all the extreme jazz metal than mathcore even though both if those are abundant, can knock that off too. The Locust sure ate spazzy but probably not deemed mathy enough for a top list.

I bolded Genghis Tron but I think Rolo Tomassi could also be in the list in that spot, I'm definitely pushing for one of those, they're both among the top artists in the new age of mathcore. Same with the Number Twelve... They push the boundaries.

BTBAM rules but I wouldn't personally lump them into the mathcore boat. If I were intelligent enough I'd talk about how I think mathcore and progressive metalcore differ but you know, I'm not.

Could you post the whole list in the OP? I gotta listen to a bunch of this before I can talk about it.

And are BTBAM's earlier albums not mathcore? I think at least up to and including Colors their core was still mathcore. Progressive mathcore maybe?

I also added Psyopus because even though that would ultimately make finalization harder, I don't care cuz 25 is a nice round number, **** 24

I'd say their debut cause it's mathy as **** but not as pointlessly wanky.

But if you don't agree on BTBAM's Colors, would you agree on Silent Circus or Alaska?

Oh yeah, and I think Converge should definitely be included. Jane Doe would unfairly dominate the thread, but Petitioning the Empty Sky would be a totally solid entry.

lemme listen to them and see

I started with Colors

perhapsolutely

do you like how the words that make up that portmanteau contradict each other

I'll add that

wut

I agree, even if those are some of my favourite bands on the list.

I'm gonna have to actually listen to Psycho***ist, but I wouldn't want to be too discriminatory, since mathcore is kind of like the progressive side of metalcore already.