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Frownland 08-23-2016 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1734555)
The short clip from 2:07 onwards in the album trailer at least sounds a bit more interesting than the lead single. I don't know though. A major problem with Metallica in my opinion is that they tend to write excessively bloated songs these days. The upcoming album is 80 minutes, 2 discs, 6 tracks per disc. Do the math...
I'm fine with other bands writing long songs, but metallica don't know what to do with those extra minutes any more except just play all the riffs 4 times more than necessary and add a ton of hamfisted transitions.
Accurate as ****, well put.

Blank. 08-23-2016 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1734562)
That's why I said "these days". On the St. Anger, Death Magnetic/Beyond Magnetic and Lulu albums, plus that damn Lords of Summer song, those kinds of interesting musical passages that keeps Master of Puppets afloat are nowhere to be seen. I'm pretty sure Kirk Hammet forgot how to play melodies with his guitar, too.
Oh! I agree with you then.

Terrapin_Station 08-23-2016 01:33 PM
I'd be surprised if I didn't love it. I've pretty much loved everything they've done, including St. Anger and even Lulu.

No kidding.

No. Seriously.

Frownland 08-23-2016 01:35 PM
I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.

Blank. 08-23-2016 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1734627)
I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.
From a production standpoint, I hate it. The album could of been great.

Frownland 08-23-2016 01:38 PM
That makes me wonder, did they ever have good sound quality? The classic albums are passable, but they're nothing to write home about in that sense. The only time I think the production works is with Kill 'Em All, and that was basically done in a lofi way on accident.

Blank. 08-23-2016 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1734633)
That makes me wonder, did they ever have good sound quality? The classic albums are passable, but they're nothing to write home about in that sense. The only time I think the production works is with Kill 'Em All, and that was basically done in a lofi way on accident.
Well, the thing is that some bands just can't have good production. Metallica is at their best when they have low production. Take Master Of Puppets for example. It has low production quality, because it's very spacious in sound. But then you have death magnetic, with nearly perfect production but it seems to ruin the songs. As good as Metallica is, they're songwriting doesn't work for over-production.

Dylstew 08-23-2016 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Terrapin_Station (Post 1734624)
I'd be surprised if I didn't love it. I've pretty much loved everything they've done, including St. Anger and even Lulu.

No kidding.

No. Seriously.
Nononono you gotta be pulling my dick here come on man stop ****in' with me, seriously dude.

Frownland 08-23-2016 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1blankmind (Post 1734638)
Well, the thing is that some bands just can't have good production. Metallica is at their best when they have low production. Take Master Of Puppets for example. It has low production quality, because it's very spacious in sound. But then you have death magnetic, with nearly perfect production but it seems to ruin the songs. As good as Metallica is, they're songwriting doesn't work for over-production.
When I say good production, I mean the production that best suits the music so it could either be lofi or hifi. I don't think they've ever achieved quality in that aspect tbh.

Terrapin_Station 08-23-2016 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1734627)
I think that St. Anger gets entirely too much flak (might be a nostalgia thing), but love?

That's just unethical.
Haha.

I always loved that drum sound, too. (And I'm a drummer. Well and a bassist and keyboardist.)

I've had a particular fondness for tightly-tuned, clangy, wide-open snare drums since I was a kid. Charlie Watts used to use a clangy snare a lot, but a lot of jazz players have used that sound, too.


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