Rock & Metal

LOL82 · 04-10-2016, 01:27 PM

Hello!

Why rock and metal are merged together in this forum. These are so different from each other. So different sound and music.

**Janszoon** · 04-10-2016, 01:55 PM

Because metal started as a subgenre of rock and a lot of metal is still very closely related to rock.

JGuy Grungeman · 04-10-2016, 01:56 PM

A lot of rock also falls in metal, and vice-versa.

Prime examples: Black Sabbath, Metallica, Alice in Chains, GNR, Motley Crue, etc.

LOL82 · 04-10-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

A lot of rock also falls in metal, and vice-versa.

Prime examples: Black Sabbath, Metallica, Alice in Chains, GNR, Motley Crue, etc.

Heh, interesting. Could you give some more examples?

Could you exactly define a difference between a pop rock/ pop metal band? I'm new here, so sorry if this is something you have answered here.

JGuy Grungeman · 04-10-2016, 04:22 PM

Well, pop metal isn't an offical genre, but it's used as a slang term for glam metal, also known as hair metal. Glam metal's music was more polished than regular heavy metal, but it retained a much heavier sound than rock. Pop rock, on the other hand, is a basic blend of rock and pop, and there's nothing really more to say about that.

Pop Rock = Beatles
Pop Metal = Motley Crue. But keep in mind pop metal is a rarely used term. It's mostly either glam or hair metal.

As far as other examples of heavy metal/hard rock, Dream Theater, Motorhead, Scorpions (my favorite example), Soundgarden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, and Riot.

Although it's always subjective, there are commonly agreed on ones.

pep_moo · 07-01-2016, 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Well, pop metal isn't an offical genre, but it's used as a slang term for glam metal, also known as hair metal. Glam metal's music was more polished than regular heavy metal, but it retained a much heavier sound than rock. Pop rock, on the other hand, is a basic blend of rock and pop, and there's nothing really more to say about that.

Pop Rock = Beatles
Pop Metal = Motley Crue. But keep in mind pop metal is a rarely used term. It's mostly either glam or hair metal.

As far as other examples of heavy metal/hard rock, Dream Theater, Motorhead, Scorpions (my favorite example), Soundgarden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, and Riot.

Although it's always subjective, there are commonly agreed on ones.

Interesting. In Sweden I don't know anyone who would've defined your example bands as Heavy Metal. Hard rock, maybe... I guess your definition of Heavy Metal is more widespread in America?

**Janszoon** · 07-01-2016, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by pep_moo

Interesting. In Sweden I don't know anyone who would've defined your example bands as Heavy Metal. Hard rock, maybe... I guess your definition of Heavy Metal is more widespread in America?

You don't know anyone who'd define Ozzy as metal?

pep_moo · 07-01-2016, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

You don't know anyone who'd define Ozzy as metal?

Many songs, yes, so perhaps I should stand corrected. What would you say is Classic Rock? 60's and 70's?

But 80's rock, and rock with 80's influence is usually defined Metal?

HellCell · 04-11-2016, 01:08 PM

I like to think of it this way. Metal and Rock are like friends.

I don't know anyone who likes Metal, but doesn't like Rock.
On the reverse, I don't know anyone who likes Rock who wouldn't like Metal. Perhaps not all subgenres, but there is a piece of the pie they'll like. Thus no one will complain about a merged subforum as such.

The Batlord · 04-11-2016, 01:13 PM

This is an old discussion. Basically, this forum isn't active enough for it to matter whether or not the rock and metal sections are separate. And the people who own this site could give a **** about making any changes to it. We can't even get new emojis, so changing the entire forum is just not going to happen.

04-10-2016, 01:27 PM	#1 (permalink)
LOL82 Groupie Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Poland Posts: 42	Rock & Metal Hello! Why rock and metal are merged together in this forum. These are so different from each other. So different sound and music.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	A lot of rock also falls in metal, and vice-versa. Prime examples: Black Sabbath, Metallica, Alice in Chains, GNR, Motley Crue, etc. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Well, pop metal isn't an offical genre, but it's used as a slang term for glam metal, also known as hair metal. Glam metal's music was more polished than regular heavy metal, but it retained a much heavier sound than rock. Pop rock, on the other hand, is a basic blend of rock and pop, and there's nothing really more to say about that. Pop Rock = Beatles Pop Metal = Motley Crue. But keep in mind pop metal is a rarely used term. It's mostly either glam or hair metal. As far as other examples of heavy metal/hard rock, Dream Theater, Motorhead, Scorpions (my favorite example), Soundgarden, Ozzy, Judas Priest, and Riot. Although it's always subjective, there are commonly agreed on ones. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

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HellCell Music Addict Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 272	I like to think of it this way. Metal and Rock are like friends. I don't know anyone who likes Metal, but doesn't like Rock. On the reverse, I don't know anyone who likes Rock who wouldn't like Metal. Perhaps not all subgenres, but there is a piece of the pie they'll like. Thus no one will complain about a merged subforum as such. __________________ http://www.last.fm/user/deannewb