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Old 03-09-2016, 12:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Anything before 1992 is labelled as Classic Rock, meanwhile some skateboarder changes the shape of his jeans and Metal has a new sub genre.

It's unhelpful, indulgent and reduces music to fashion and marketing.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Anything before 1992 is labelled as Classic Rock
Actually, I think the term "classic rock" originally referred exclusively to rock music made in 1960-1970, before everybody started adding 4-hour guitar solos to every rock song. More to the point, that's not true. There's acid rock, psychedelic rock, blues rock, hard rock, etc.., and all of those are sub-genres of rock frequently used to describe music from that period.

Sub-genres are a good thing, especially in metal, where there is a big difference between Judas Priest, Suffocation, Isis, and Sunn O))).

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meanwhile some skateboarder changes the shape of his jeans and Metal has a new sub genre.
I have not ever seen someone reference skateboarding in regards to metal. I don't know where you got that from or what the hell that has to do with anything. I'm pretty sure Norwegians don't skateboard, though I think Briks does have a battle jacket.
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I have not ever seen someone reference skateboarding in regards to metal.
Really? There was a pretty huge overlap between skateboarders and metal fans for a very long time.
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:34 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Really? There was a pretty huge overlap between skateboarders and metal fans for a very long time.
Maybe you're just old.
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Maybe you're just old.
I still know kids who skate around listening to In Flames, Suicidal Tendencies, and Anthrax. Granted, not many.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:13 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Really? There was a pretty huge overlap between skateboarders and metal fans for a very long time.
I mean in the us there was, but metal is a global phenomenon. I'm willing to bet the members of a Scandinavian black metal band didn't journey out into the frostbitten cold on skateboards.
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I mean in the us there was, but metal is a global phenomenon. I'm willing to bet the members of a Scandinavian black metal band didn't journey out into the frostbitten cold on skateboards.
You said you had never heard anyone connect the two.
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I like narrow use of specific sub-genre titles because it helps me find musicians who sound like what I'm in the mood to explore. If I want to hear bands that sound like Acid King I don't want to spend my time shifting through bands that sound like poison.
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I like narrow use of specific sub-genre titles because it helps me find musicians who sound like what I'm in the mood to explore. If I want to hear bands that sound like Acid King I don't want to spend my time shifting through bands that sound like poison.
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Sub-genres highlight specific shared aesthetics. They proliferate and become popularized because they are helpful, such as the case of Bestial Black Metal. They shrivel and die when they're just another marketing tool, such as Pirate Metal, back when alestorm was "the thing". Just because "Pirate Metal" is bull**** does not mean Bestial Black Metal is bull****, etc, etc. If two people post on this here board, one asking for recommendations for "Atmospheric Black Metal" and the other for "Bestial Black Metal", these two would get very different recommendations with no/minimal overlap. Why? Because these subgenres, like many others, are incredibly useful.

tl;dr - it's called nuance, and appreciating it is part of being an adult.
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