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Old 03-18-2016, 01:22 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, they did release three albums in the 80s and one of them was with Patton.
lookin back at the dates yeah ok but really tho

I think I remember creative wise Mike didn't really ...Duldge into it till Angel Dust and yeah that album like murks there 1st 3 soo...
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:31 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Ummm... Melvins weren't grunge. They were mostly sludge metal. I just played Melvins. Take it from a guy who's heard 175 grunge albums. Melvins were an influence on future grunge albums, but they themselves weren't grunge. Grunge has a very distinct teenage angst and guitar style. Melvins had angst and guitar, but not the same kinds.
I've never really thought of Melvins as grunge either, but they were still a million times closer than Pearl Jam, who were really the first post-grunge band. And Melvins might have inspired sludge metal, and certainly qualify looking purely at their sound, but at the heart of the band they were something like hardcore, noise rock, post-hardcore (or something), and alternative.

They're hard to classify, but I see them like Flipper, a band who were a direct inspiration, and could qualify depending on your POV, but just a tad short. Maybe Gluey Porch Treatments could be grunge, as it was supposed to be closer to hardcore than their later stuff, but I have yet to listen to it so I couldn't say.

To me, "trve grvnge" is stuff like Green River, Mudhoney, Nirvana's first album (their last two albums being more alt/noise rock with a grunge aesthetic, rather than pure grunge, but I wouldn't argue too much with someone who disagreed), Tad, early Soundgarden and Screaming Trees, and maybe L7.

I define grunge as mid-paced hardcore, combined with noise rock, elements of Black Sabbath, and heavy distortion. Honestly, it's more of a post-hardcore movement based in a specific geographic area, rather than a truly defined sub-genre IMO.
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Melvins ain't fit to clean Flipper's buttcrack.

At first, I thought of grunge as like Killdozer, especially the vinyl version Burl that played slow. And then I was like no grunge is like early Swans. Then the word got hijacked and it was like Green River and that 'loser' Sub Pop monthly singles club.
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I'll go with something unorthodox = Fun lovin Criminals
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:05 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Old 03-18-2016, 01:12 PM   #46 (permalink)
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He DID say unorthodox. Just checked their wikipedia and rym pages. Now I'm highly curious.
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Old 03-18-2016, 02:09 PM   #47 (permalink)
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That's funny your take on Buzz Osborne. I haven't seen that interview but considering how much they borrowed from Sabbath they got some nerve talking about who's the real deal.
They say Tony Iommi invented every heavy riff that ever was. The interview probably was in Metal Evolution.
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No one has dibs on that so yeah whatever.
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