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JGuy Grungeman · 03-30-2016, 11:01 AM

Well, their first three albums are totally grunge despite leaning a little closer to alternative rock, and they are one of the "Big Four of Grunge." Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden.

I wasn't aware Purple was in. OK.

EDIT: Also, is Hot Rats anywhere on this list? Never heard it, but I'm surprised its not on Jazz Rock

**Frownland** · 03-30-2016, 12:56 PM

It's on the jazz fusion list. Also it's probably a good idea to only suggest albums that you've heard.

The Batlord · 03-30-2016, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Well, their first three albums are totally grunge despite leaning a little closer to alternative rock, and they are one of the "Big Four of Grunge." Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden.

I wasn't aware Purple was in. OK.

EDIT: Also, is Hot Rats anywhere on this list? Never heard it, but I'm surprised its not on Jazz Rock

How are they "totally grunge"? Clearly we have two entirely different definitions.

Grunge:

Not grunge:

**Frownland** · 03-30-2016, 01:15 PM

Pearl Jam is proto-post-grunge, which technically evens out to just grunge.

The Batlord · 03-30-2016, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Pearl Jam is proto-post-grunge, which technically evens out to just grunge.

Can't argue with genre tag math.

JGuy Grungeman · 03-30-2016, 01:26 PM

They had the same kind of definitive teenage angst that grunge is known for. They steered closer to alternative rock to stay more mainstream. But they were a huge part of the grunge scene. They don't do grunge anymore since alternative is far more dominent. Youbcan't tell me songs like Once and Even Flow and Why Go don't have that sound.

The Batlord · 03-30-2016, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

They had the same kind of definitive teenage angst that grunge is known for.

So emo is grunge? Nu metal too, I guess? Not to mention post-grunge.

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They steered closer to alternative rock to stay more mainstream. But they were a huge part of the grunge scene. They don't do grunge anymore since alternative is far more dominent. Youbcan't tell me songs like Once and Even Flow and Why Go don't have that sound.

I'd say they steered closer to classic rock than grunge. Dudes were some 70's hard rock fanboys.

Black Francis · 03-30-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Well, their first three albums are totally grunge despite leaning a little closer to alternative rock, and they are one of the "Big Four of Grunge." Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden.

I wasn't aware Purple was in. OK.

EDIT: Also, is Hot Rats anywhere on this list? Never heard it, but I'm surprised its not on Jazz Rock

Im surprised you left out Stone Temple pilots outta the big 4, though not all their songs sound grunge to me they sound more grunge than Pearl Jam.

JGuy Grungeman · 03-30-2016, 02:01 PM

Emo doesn't have the "same angst." But I agree they sound a little similar. Also, grunge was known for its punk influence. Post-grunge is a liitle more conventional and focuses on pop hooks. I can put Soundgarden and Pearl Jam on the same pedastal. Plus, post-grunge focises a little less on angst. I can't put Pearl Jam's Ten and Foo Fighter's The Colour and Shape on the same pedastal, despite being both alternative rock. But I can group Nevermind with Ten.

I didn't leave them out. Google it. That's the official big four.

Black Francis · 03-30-2016, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

Emo doesn't have the "same angst." But I agree they sound a little similar. Also, grunge was known for its punk influence. Post-grunge is a liitle more conventional and focuses on pop hooks. I can put Soundgarden and Pearl Jam on the same pedastal. Plus, post-grunge focises a little less on angst. I can't put Pearl Jam's Ten and Foo Fighter's The Colour and Shape on the same pedastal, despite being both alternative rock. But I can group Nevermind with Ten.

I didn't leave them out. Google it. That's the official big four.

I did and you're right but i kinda meant out of your personal Big 4. official or not i would replace Pearl jam with STP in my big 4 list. they were as popular as Pearl jam and during that whole era they seemed as relevant as them to the whole grunge movement.

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JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Well, their first three albums are totally grunge despite leaning a little closer to alternative rock, and they are one of the "Big Four of Grunge." Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden. I wasn't aware Purple was in. OK. EDIT: Also, is Hot Rats anywhere on this list? Never heard it, but I'm surprised its not on Jazz Rock __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me. Last edited by JGuy Grungeman; 03-30-2016 at 11:09 AM.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	It's on the jazz fusion list. Also it's probably a good idea to only suggest albums that you've heard. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	Pearl Jam is proto-post-grunge, which technically evens out to just grunge. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

03-30-2016, 01:26 PM	#36 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	They had the same kind of definitive teenage angst that grunge is known for. They steered closer to alternative rock to stay more mainstream. But they were a huge part of the grunge scene. They don't do grunge anymore since alternative is far more dominent. Youbcan't tell me songs like Once and Even Flow and Why Go don't have that sound. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

03-30-2016, 02:01 PM	#39 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Emo doesn't have the "same angst." But I agree they sound a little similar. Also, grunge was known for its punk influence. Post-grunge is a liitle more conventional and focuses on pop hooks. I can put Soundgarden and Pearl Jam on the same pedastal. Plus, post-grunge focises a little less on angst. I can't put Pearl Jam's Ten and Foo Fighter's The Colour and Shape on the same pedastal, despite being both alternative rock. But I can group Nevermind with Ten. I didn't leave them out. Google it. That's the official big four. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.