Metal Showdown (Round 5) - Alice In Chains vs Guns N' Roses
 

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In the last round, Alice In Chains easily beat out the relatively unknown Paradise Lost 5-2.

This time, however, they're up against a more formidable opponent, and that is Guns N' Roses.


There's not much to say about these guys other than the obvious short history the original lineup had together. They had a really short but extremely successful streak with Appetite For Destruction, their EP Lies, and the Use Your Illusion double album.

I wasn't alive for any of this, but I know of the massive impact they had on heavy music during the late 80's/early 90's that's still felt today. They are a band that sadly went astray due to tons of infighting that forced everyone to go separate ways, essentially turning GNR into the Axl Rose show. Not to mention Axl's douchey stage antics that still linger to this day, such as canceling an entire show because someone in the front row threw a water bottle at him.

All that aside, they are a band that has changed the history of hard rock and metal music, and rightfully have their place in the history of rock. Let's see if they can win this round.


AIC return for another round against the powerful GNR. Let's see if one of the kings of Grunge can hold their own against Axl and the gang.

As for me, I'm going with AIC. They had a much tighter group dynamic than GNR, and despite the loss of their vocalist, still manage to churn out new material that rivals their old stuff to a certain extent. I can't say the same for GNR, but hopefully something will come out of this new reunion.

GnR by a lot.

Alice In mutha fugin Chains

Both bands have only a couple albums I legit like. Going with Alice for the bootlegs and the vocals.

AiC 4
GnR 1

Oh wait... there's a poll.

Well isn't that convenient.

Alice. I've never been a fan of GnR, Rocket Queen is about the only song of theirs I'm a fan of but Alice In Chains has some great songs and their Unplugged set was excellent even though Layne was deep into heroin at that point.

Nice to see AIC running away with this. Axl completely ruined G&R for me.

+1

I can't believe that GNR even got two votes. This thread should be renamed to fudgesicle vs. frozen piece of crap on a stick.

Alive in Chains would definitely win over Guns N' Roses, but they both kinda suck, especially the latter.

Wha?

Jar of Flies and Dirt are both rock classics.

I'm pretty sure he's a spammer anyway. Don't waste your time.

A lot of classics suck, actually. Just sayin.

I never could get into Jar of Flies. Dirt's groundbreaking.

AiC are one of those band I wanted to like but they were always so disappointing. The only thing they released that was worthwhile was Jar of Flies and even that peters out toward the end. GnR actually managed to released two good LPs.

UYI was pretty good. UYII just managed to be great, and Appetite was well worth it, being sad proof that they once had talent.

As far as AiC goes, the only great official release is Dirt, but they have a great Bootleg: Bad Dream. Their live shows at that time were fantastic. Plus, I've seen some really bad GNR, never AiC.

Facelift is a classic album also. It doesn't get alot of credit but its equally as good as Dirt. Jar Of Flies, was too poppy and instrumentally to be considered a classic in the genre. I voted Chains but I like GNR.

I guess which band is the **** on a stick is relative, then. My fudgesicle tastes a lot better than yours is all I'm going to say...

best AiC song

Staley was well on his way to death but still managed to pull this off.

My fudgesicle brings all the boys to tha yaaahd and they're like "It's better than yours."

Except for the fact that I don't like GNR, I will partially agree. Jar of Flies has some of the best songs ever recorded as far as I'm concerned ("Rotten Apple" to "No Excuses" is flawless). But the rest of their albums never quite measured up to their potential. I honestly think they would have been best playing more melodic tracks and less "grungey" songs. Even the best songs off Dirt, "Down in a Hole" and "Would", are proof of this. "Man in the Box" is the intense exception to this.

But even when they were a less good, blues rock version of the Melvins they were still better than Guns N Roses.

Yep, absolutely. I think they sounded their best doing depressing dirge-like music along the lines of "Rotten Apple", but they insisted on trying to rock out most of the time, which they kind of sucked at. Unlike you, really dislike "Man in the Box" so I have no examples of them rocking out successfully.

You're wrong sir.

Congratulations in having ****ty taste in glam metal. Motley Crue have been notified and will avoid you in the future. Of course I'm sure you'll be pleased by this, as you have ****ty taste in glam metal.

Good taste in glam metal is the same as thinking glam metal is awful ftr.

You probably have no taste not handed to you by websites that suck John Cage's dick.

Necropheleoteric.com doesn't really post updates anymore.

You guys are so ****ed up.

Dirt is a masterpiece. I don't care what any of you say.

I agree. Anyone who rates GNR and doesn't think that Dirt is fantastic is clearly out of their mind.

I would say Motley Crüe are my second favorite glam metal band. They haven't made any albums that I enjoy from start to finish though, unlike Guns 'n' Roses.

Mental.

No you.

Skid Row's debut.
Saigon Kick's debut.
Dokken, Back for the Attack.
Winger's debut album.

All are better than Crue's best - Dr. Feelgood. Which is great btw.

Because you have ****ty taste in glam metal.

Never listened to Saigon Kick, and I've never had any interest in Winger, but Skid Row's debut is just Dr. Feelgood part 2, and I might be able to kind of enjoy Dokken if their singer wasn't a completely boring copycat of Klaus Meine from the Scorpions, another band I could give a **** about.

Saw them back up King's X and they ****ing kicked major ass.

If you say so. I haven't spent much time exploring the back catalog of any of those bands because I don't like anything I've ever heard from any of them. To be fair to Saigon Kick though, I think I've only ever heard one song by them.

I'll take that as a compliment!

I've heard all of their studio and live albums. I don't see how Dokken sounds like Klaus Meine. Meine has a younger sounding voice with more raw power and raspiness, while Dokken's more sleak and melodic during the heavier aspects of their music as well as the softer ones. Heck, I'd say Ronnie James sounded more like him than Dokken, in fact before I knew who he was and before I heard all the albums I thought Rainbow in the Dark was Scorpions.

GNR is getting taken to the woodshed.

Why on earth would you subject yourself to that many Dokken albums? Did you lose a bet?

I've only heard a couple. I was talking about Scorpions.

Also, I went to a Dokken show once, it was the best freakin' show I've been to. I'm not ig on Dokken, but it was way better than the album. Front row, as well!