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Old 01-05-2016, 01:04 AM   #41 (permalink)
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But was anything GNR did after Appetite in '87 as big as Nevermind in '91? I've certainly never heard the Use Your Illusion albums spoken of in the same not-so-hushed tones.

So after the eighties, wouldn't they have been been replaced by Nirvana and Pearl Jam, even if they were still relatively equally popular?
They were replaced in a different demographic, IMO. Nirvana and PJ were part of a alternative or grunge crowd, whereas GNR was always hard rock. GNR was lumped into the hair metal thing but really weren't, and younger people were tired of classic rock, heavy metal and hair metal. They wanted their own thing that spoke to them, and grunge was it. But nobody turned off the tap when it came to GNR. Every GNR release sold platinum, right up to 1993. Both the Illusion albums (7X each) and Spaghetti sold platinum. So did Chinese Democracy, 15 years later. That pretty much tells you how big these guys were- 15 years after their prime ended, they sell a million albums. Their fans stuck with them. While Nirvana was really big but had a very short shelf life, what, 3 years? They are looked at with reverence but never impacted worldwide the way GNR did, IMO.
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Old 01-05-2016, 01:54 AM   #42 (permalink)
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A lot of people were seduced by the uber screech thing he was doing back then. I always thought him the weakest link in the band but he ended up making it work - for a while.

Now that his voice is shot it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.
Another thing that will be interesting to see once this tour starts is whether or not he'll get himself into shape. My mom was a huge GNR fan back in the Appetite days, but said she has no interesting in seeing Axl perform anymore since he's "fat and ugly" these days. I'm curious to see how looks will play into this, and how far Axl will go to reclaim some of his former glory days in regards to his looks.
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They were replaced in a different demographic, IMO. Nirvana and PJ were part of a alternative or grunge crowd, whereas GNR was always hard rock. GNR was lumped into the hair metal thing but really weren't, and younger people were tired of classic rock, heavy metal and hair metal. They wanted their own thing that spoke to them, and grunge was it. But nobody turned off the tap when it came to GNR. Every GNR release sold platinum, right up to 1993. Both the Illusion albums (7X each) and Spaghetti sold platinum. So did Chinese Democracy, 15 years later. That pretty much tells you how big these guys were- 15 years after their prime ended, they sell a million albums. Their fans stuck with them. While Nirvana was really big but had a very short shelf life, what, 3 years? They are looked at with reverence but never impacted worldwide the way GNR did, IMO.
What are you talking about? They were totally a glam band. They came from the Sunset Strip glam scene and they played glam music that just happened to have a harder edge than Poison. What exactly makes them not a hair band?
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What are you talking about? They were totally a glam band. They came from the Sunset Strip glam scene and they played glam music that just happened to have a harder edge than Poison. What exactly makes them not a hair band?
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Wait, what band are we talking about now? I thought you guys were talking about GnR.
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Another thing that will be interesting to see once this tour starts is whether or not he'll get himself into shape. My mom was a huge GNR fan back in the Appetite days, but said she has no interesting in seeing Axl perform anymore since he's "fat and ugly" these days. I'm curious to see how looks will play into this, and how far Axl will go to reclaim some of his former glory days in regards to his looks.
He looked in good shape two years ago when I saw him play. He's not 19 years old anymore. And let your Mom know she is incredibly shallow. And tell us all exactly how we can reclaim our "former glory days in regards to looks"- I know an awful lot of 50 year olds who are interested.
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The biggest joke of a hair metal band of that era were Winger (hell, Beavis and Butthead pretty much ruined their careers). And Winger had 10X more talent than GnR.
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What does that have to do with anything? Just because you like one band from a genre doesn't make them not a band from that genre. They were formed from members of two glam metal bands for god's sake.
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The biggest joke of a hair metal band of that era were Winger (hell, Beavis and Butthead pretty much ruined their careers). And Winger had 10X more talent than GnR.
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