The Greatest Single Influence on Metal

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Actually, looking at overall influence, I think that you can make a solid case for Haydn. Half of the metal bands out there basically Haydn with distortion.

**Frownland** · 10-20-2015, 12:23 PM

Itt: someone who's never listened to Haydn.

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 12:36 PM

This is one of those times when your pretentiousness has reached self-parody.

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

*starts a thread asking for opinions about the greatest influence in metal*

*gets mad when people write about what they think are the greatest influence in metal because it doesn't work for metal month*

Hmm.

* Must have read in the first post WHY thread was started, and what it's supposed to accomplish
* Ignores OP and makes joke
* then slags off OP for not being correct

@Frownland:
I made specific reference to people like Hendrix et al, who had a huge influence on metal but explained why they would not fit the bill. When I do Classical Month I'll include Haydn. This is indeed your pretentiousness raised to new levels, or are you just trying to annoy me? Did you even read the OP?

**Frownland** · 10-20-2015, 01:56 PM

It's a good topic to discuss, the world exists outside of metal month.

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

It's a good topic to discuss, the world exists outside of metal month.

Yeah but I made this thread for that specific purpose. Of course anyone can discuss other influences; it's more Ki's comment that pissed me off if I'm honest. Like I say, some people don't bother to read the OP and then make smart comments. That annoys me.

If you're talking classical giants that had an influence on metal (oh crap! New idea alert!) then surely you gotta talk about this guy?

Oh, and has it been empirically proven that the world exists outside Metal Month? Show me your research...

**Frownland** · 10-20-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

This is one of those times when your pretentiousness has reached self-parody.

Nah, Haydn's structural and melodic approaches are very close to what you hear in traditional metal. I'm getting the impression that you still have not listened to any Haydn because I find the similarities almost glaringly obvious.

The Batlord · 10-20-2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Nah, Haydn's structural and melodic approaches are very close to what you hear in traditional metal. I'm getting the impression that you still have not listened to any Haydn because I find the similarities almost glaringly obvious.

I have. In fact he wrote the German National Anthem, which was for some odd reason my school song, just with different lyrics.

But you're clearly seeking attention by bringing up such an outlandishly unintuitive claim. Mission accomplished I guess.

Trollheart · 10-20-2015, 04:10 PM

So is anyone going to take this seriously, or will I just go and make my own choice, leading to a chorus of derisory "Why did you choose him?" next year?

**Frownland** · 10-20-2015, 04:12 PM

^I said Iommi in the beginning.

@Bart Calling it outlandish doesn't make it so. I'm still not convinced that you've ever listened to Haydn. If you transcribe a Haydn song for guitar drums and bass, used distortion she appropriate and played faster, depending on the piece, it would sound closer to Metallica or something along those lines. Think outside of the context of orchestral music and maybe you'll see it too.

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Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	^I said Iommi in the beginning. @Bart Calling it outlandish doesn't make it so. I'm still not convinced that you've ever listened to Haydn. If you transcribe a Haydn song for guitar drums and bass, used distortion she appropriate and played faster, depending on the piece, it would sound closer to Metallica or something along those lines. Think outside of the context of orchestral music and maybe you'll see it too. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x