Metallica and Megadeth

**Janszoon** · 10-15-2015, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Rust In Peace is only boring when Marty Friedman is playing a 5-hour neoclassical solo. When Mustaine is leading the charge in "Holy Wars" or melting faces with "Hangar 18" or the solo at the end of "Five Magics," the album is anything but boring.

No, it's just boring.

**Frownland** · 10-15-2015, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Laugh all you want, it one of their most iconic singles that's still played continually as an encore during their live shows.

I wouldn't choose it over anything off their first three albums, but as far as radio rock goes, it did the trick.

The popularity of the track means nothing as far as its quality. If you really go by that logic, I assume you love Taylor Swift's 1989? It's the top selling album of the year so far, can't argue with that.

Norg · 10-15-2015, 03:25 PM

There is no beef between the bands anymore and they should tour together that would be a cool bill

Metallica
Megadeth
Down

I would go to that for sure

**Frownland** · 10-15-2015, 04:18 PM

I think that a better bill would be Metallica, Megadeth, and Toby Keith.

William_the_Bloody · 10-15-2015, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

The popularity of the track means nothing as far as its quality. If you really go by that logic, I assume you love Taylor Swift's 1989? It's the top selling album of the year so far, can't argue with that.

As a genre, I believe that metal has to continue to have some measure of commercial success, otherwise it will simply fade into being a small niche market for extreme metal fans.

Metallica provided a good rock radio hit at the time.

The Batlord · 10-15-2015, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

As a genre, I believe that metal has to continue to have some measure of commercial success, otherwise it will simply fade into being a small niche market for extreme metal fans.

Metallica provided a good rock radio hit at the time.

What does mainstream success contribute to metal? The internet's democratization of music has done far more to make underground metal a viable career choice than anything Metallica ever did in the nineties.

William_the_Bloody · 10-15-2015, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

What does mainstream success contribute to metal? The internet's democratization of music has done far more to make underground metal a viable career choice than anything Metallica ever did in the nineties.

Well that's all fine and dandy but bands that are signed to majors typically have longer shelf lives, and metal was pretty much dead with teenagers in North America, until metalcore rolled in.

You make less as an underground band now than you did back than because your income source primarily comes from live shows, music these days is pretty much downloaded for free, so record sales mean squat. You tour and tour until you start to get rampant tinnitus and burn out. So much for the metal underground.

The Batlord · 10-15-2015, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

Well that's all fine and dandy but bands that are signed to majors typically have longer shelf lives, and metal was pretty much dead with teenagers in North America, until metalcore rolled in.

And those metal bands by and large suck ass and have no credibility to the metal community at large.

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You make less as an underground band now than you did back than because your income source primarily comes from live shows, music these days is pretty much downloaded for free, so record sales mean squat. You tour and tour until you start to get rampant tinnitus and burn out. So much for the metal underground.

As opposed to the one cent on the dollar bands used to make off of their god forsaken record deals? I assume bands lived off money from touring just as much then as they do now.

William_the_Bloody · 10-15-2015, 10:26 PM

No actually you could pull in relatively good money from record sales, particularly when you were on the road, via merchandise sales, and many indie labels didn't run on the 1 dollar cut.

The free downloading of music has really knocked the floor under artists. Why bother logging into iTunes and paying a $1 per song when it's easier to log into soulseek and get it for free. I personally don't know anyone that pays for music anymore

The Batlord · 10-15-2015, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by William_the_Bloody

No actually you could pull in relatively good money from record sales, particularly when you were on the road, via merchandise sales, and many indie labels didn't run on the 1 dollar cut.

The free downloading of music has really knocked the floor under artists. Why bother logging into iTunes and paying a $1 per song when it's easier to log into soulseek and get it for free. I personally don't know anyone that pays for music anymore

And yet metal bands seem to have longer careers these days, since there's a much bigger audience than there ever was before the internet. I remember an interview with Carcass where they commented on how crazy it was just how bigger of a media presence there was covering them when they reunited than back in their heyday. Metal is simply a bigger business now, because the internet has given bands who would have never had a shot at recognition have a chance to get heard without having to sell their souls for halfway decent distribution.

Tried finding that Carcass interview, but couldn't, but I did find another one where Bill Steer kind of backs up what I said...

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Metal is a much bigger thing than it was; the underground scene way back when was just a relatively small number of people scattered across the world. We all knew each other in some form or another. We were corresponding, swapping tapes, and everything was much more slow moving, naturally, because we’re talking about things going through the post rather than the internet. Now it just feels like the whole thing is much, much bigger. There is an industry that’s very efficient, that has built itself up around this, and that does change things.

INTERVIEW: Bill Steer of Carcass

10-15-2015, 04:18 PM	#24 (permalink)
Frownland SOPHIE FOREVER Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: East of the Southern North American West Posts: 35,541	I think that a better bill would be Metallica, Megadeth, and Toby Keith. __________________ Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth. d e a f b o x

10-15-2015, 03:25 PM	#23 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	There is no beef between the bands anymore and they should tour together that would be a cool bill Metallica Megadeth Down I would go to that for sure

10-15-2015, 10:26 PM	#29 (permalink)
William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	No actually you could pull in relatively good money from record sales, particularly when you were on the road, via merchandise sales, and many indie labels didn't run on the 1 dollar cut. The free downloading of music has really knocked the floor under artists. Why bother logging into iTunes and paying a $1 per song when it's easier to log into soulseek and get it for free. I personally don't know anyone that pays for music anymore