Rock Album Survivor

TechnicLePanther · 01-28-2016, 06:18 PM

Some groovy smooth jazz elements, and plenty of influence on the loose drumming. The sax is a big part of it, and it is definitely played in a jazzy way, if a bit avant-garde as well.

**Frownland** · 01-28-2016, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

Some groovy smooth jazz elements, and plenty of influence on the loose drumming. The sax is a big part of it, and it is definitely played in a jazzy way, if a bit avant-garde as well.

grindy · 01-28-2016, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

Some groovy smooth jazz elements, and plenty of influence on the loose drumming. The sax is a big part of it, and it is definitely played in a jazzy way, if a bit avant-garde as well.

It's like your just randomly throwing around words.
It's almost free jazzy.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-28-2016, 06:33 PM

As long as lists are still being worked on, here's a soft rock list.

1. Carole King - Tapestry
2. America - America
3. George Harrison - George Harrison
4. Linda Rodstadt - Heart Like a Wheel
5. Fleetwood Mac - Tango in the Night (I know I suggest Fleetwood Mac a lot, but they're a great band)
6. Paul McCartney and Wings - Red Rose Speedway
7. The Doobie Brothers - Minute by Minute
8. Three Dog Night - It Ain't Easy
9. Van Morrison - A Sense of Wonder
10. Moody Blues- Long Distance Voyager

Jazz-Rock (different from jazz-fusion)
1. Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority
2. Steely Dan - Aja
3. Santana - Caravanserai
4. Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow
5. Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North
6. Magma - Magma
7. Embryo - Rock Session
8. Morphine - Yes
9. Naked City - Radio
10. Gong - Shamal

Piano Rock

1. Billy Joel - The Stranger
2. Randy Newman - Sail Away
3. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn...
4. Elton John - Elton John
5. Rick Springfield - Comic Book Heroes
6. Warren Zevon - Warren Zevon
7. Leon Russell - Leon Russell and the Shelter People
8. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes
9. Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
10. Joe Jackson - Night and Day

TechnicLePanther · 01-28-2016, 06:52 PM

Alright...

I think we need an Art Punk list, or we need to remove one of the Post-Punk albums, for one critical reason. Television is in no way, shape or form, Proto-Punk. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the albums on that list, and much more to do with the Post-Punk scene of the late 70s and early 80s. With this change, I propose that Television come off of Proto-Punk, and be replaced with Here Are The Sonics!!! The Sonics could easily be replaced with another Garage Rock album. Up to you all, though.

And those three "cats" are up because why not.

EDIT- Frown, the EP or LP Duck Stab?

JGuy Grungeman · 01-28-2016, 07:50 PM

Is Television in proto-punk? Well, I'll see about that. It's fun looking through the lists, anyway.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-28-2016, 08:07 PM

Actually, first, let's take Wire out of post-punk. Wire's Pink Flag is artsy, and not posty. The went into post-punk later on in their career, I think the next album. I think we should replace it with... I've heard some good stuff about Siouxsie and the Banshees, so let's go Juju. Let's do a post-punk revival list as well.

1. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights
2. The National - Boxer
3. Franz Ferninand - Franz Ferninand
4. The Walkmen - Bows + Arrows
5. Editors - The Back Room
6. Bloc party - Silent Alarm
7. The Rapture - Echoes
8. The Sounds - Crossing the Rubicon

And anyone can finish that. As for Art Punk...

1. Television - Marque Moon
2. Wire - Pink Flag
3. Talking Heads - 77
4. The Fall
5. Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea
6. Public Image Ltd. - First Issue
7. Flipper - Gone Fishin
8. Brainiac - Hissing Prigs in Static Couture
9. Patti Smith Group - Wave
10. MX-80 Sound - Out of the Tunnel

The Batlord · 01-28-2016, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TechnicLePanther

Alright...

I think we need an Art Punk list, or we need to remove one of the Post-Punk albums, for one critical reason. Television is in no way, shape or form, Proto-Punk. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the albums on that list, and much more to do with the Post-Punk scene of the late 70s and early 80s. With this change, I propose that Television come off of Proto-Punk, and be replaced with Here Are The Sonics!!! The Sonics could easily be replaced with another Garage Rock album. Up to you all, though.

And those three "cats" are up because why not.

EDIT- Frown, the EP or LP Duck Stab?

Television were one of the founding bands of the New York CBGB scene, before punk ever broke. When they started out they actually did play a very proto-punk style, and it was only later that they evolved to what you hear on Marquee Moon.

I don't care what list they're on, but saying that they simply aren't proto-punk is to ignore history.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-28-2016, 09:23 PM

But none of their albums are proto-punk. Television was their debut studio album. Slthough, I agree with your point.

The Batlord · 01-28-2016, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by JGuy Grungeman

But none of their albums are proto-punk. Television was their debut studio album. Slthough, I agree with your point.

It's not like proto-punk is a real genre with a defined sound. It's just a bunch of bands that were somewhere on the path to punk, and Television were a direct link in the chain.

01-28-2016, 06:18 PM	#491 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Some groovy smooth jazz elements, and plenty of influence on the loose drumming. The sax is a big part of it, and it is definitely played in a jazzy way, if a bit avant-garde as well. __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough.

01-28-2016, 06:33 PM	#494 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	As long as lists are still being worked on, here's a soft rock list. 1. Carole King - Tapestry 2. America - America 3. George Harrison - George Harrison 4. Linda Rodstadt - Heart Like a Wheel 5. Fleetwood Mac - Tango in the Night (I know I suggest Fleetwood Mac a lot, but they're a great band) 6. Paul McCartney and Wings - Red Rose Speedway 7. The Doobie Brothers - Minute by Minute 8. Three Dog Night - It Ain't Easy 9. Van Morrison - A Sense of Wonder 10. Moody Blues- Long Distance Voyager Jazz-Rock (different from jazz-fusion) 1. Chicago - Chicago Transit Authority 2. Steely Dan - Aja 3. Santana - Caravanserai 4. Jeff Beck - Blow By Blow 5. Hatfield and the North - Hatfield and the North 6. Magma - Magma 7. Embryo - Rock Session 8. Morphine - Yes 9. Naked City - Radio 10. Gong - Shamal Piano Rock 1. Billy Joel - The Stranger 2. Randy Newman - Sail Away 3. Fiona Apple - When the Pawn... 4. Elton John - Elton John 5. Rick Springfield - Comic Book Heroes 6. Warren Zevon - Warren Zevon 7. Leon Russell - Leon Russell and the Shelter People 8. Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes 9. Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five 10. Joe Jackson - Night and Day __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

01-28-2016, 06:52 PM	#495 (permalink)
TechnicLePanther and the livin' is easy... Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: New York Posts: 1,997	Alright... I think we need an Art Punk list, or we need to remove one of the Post-Punk albums, for one critical reason. Television is in no way, shape or form, Proto-Punk. It just has nothing to do with the rest of the albums on that list, and much more to do with the Post-Punk scene of the late 70s and early 80s. With this change, I propose that Television come off of Proto-Punk, and be replaced with Here Are The Sonics!!! The Sonics could easily be replaced with another Garage Rock album. Up to you all, though. And those three "cats" are up because why not. EDIT- Frown, the EP or LP Duck Stab? __________________ Many have tried to destroy it... but... true evil never dies. It is only... REBORN *SUGGEST ME AN ALBUM* - I'm probably not going to listen to it but I will if you bother me enough. Last edited by TechnicLePanther; 01-28-2016 at 06:59 PM.

01-28-2016, 07:50 PM	#496 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Is Television in proto-punk? Well, I'll see about that. It's fun looking through the lists, anyway. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

01-28-2016, 08:07 PM	#497 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	Actually, first, let's take Wire out of post-punk. Wire's Pink Flag is artsy, and not posty. The went into post-punk later on in their career, I think the next album. I think we should replace it with... I've heard some good stuff about Siouxsie and the Banshees, so let's go Juju. Let's do a post-punk revival list as well. 1. Interpol - Turn on the Bright Lights 2. The National - Boxer 3. Franz Ferninand - Franz Ferninand 4. The Walkmen - Bows + Arrows 5. Editors - The Back Room 6. Bloc party - Silent Alarm 7. The Rapture - Echoes 8. The Sounds - Crossing the Rubicon And anyone can finish that. As for Art Punk... 1. Television - Marque Moon 2. Wire - Pink Flag 3. Talking Heads - 77 4. The Fall 5. Cardiacs - On Land and in the Sea 6. Public Image Ltd. - First Issue 7. Flipper - Gone Fishin 8. Brainiac - Hissing Prigs in Static Couture 9. Patti Smith Group - Wave 10. MX-80 Sound - Out of the Tunnel __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.

01-28-2016, 09:23 PM	#499 (permalink)
JGuy Grungeman Primo Celebate Sexiness Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,662	But none of their albums are proto-punk. Television was their debut studio album. Slthough, I agree with your point. __________________ I'm a pretty nice troll if you ask me.