Rock Album Survivor

TechnicLePanther · 01-16-2016, 08:48 AM

Alright, so now we have to take everything we've already gotten and make them into two lists: AOR and Arena Rock.

Take your time, I'll try not to forget about them this time.

@JGuy

I don't know what you're trying to say in your last post.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-16-2016, 09:14 AM

How far apart in time will each round be? It should be enough time to listen to the necessary albums.

TechnicLePanther · 01-16-2016, 09:16 AM

Alright, now I'm not sure you understand how this works. There will definitely be enough time for everything. I don't really want to explain the process right now, as once we get started, it's pretty self-explanatory. But don't worry about checking back every two seconds, I'll give everyone plenty of time to deliberate before we get started.

JGuy Grungeman · 01-16-2016, 12:52 PM

I wanted to be sure since I thought I saw a post stating there one be one a day, which would be too quick. so I wanted to be sure. I can't find that post, though.

William_the_Bloody · 01-16-2016, 12:55 PM

Just a thought. When I started the survivor threads I started with bands not albums.

I find this more fun because your taking an artists entire work into the equation when voting.

and some genres of rock music, particularly punk, aren't well suited for albums because often their best music was on EP's and singles. (Ie the Dead Kennedys Police Truck and the Holiday in Cambodia singles version) were never put on an album until the Give me Convenience or Give me Death compilation.

So just a thought.

Trollheart · 01-16-2016, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

You've never heard of "Broken Wings" "Kyrie" or "Is It Love" by Mr. Mister? Also Survivor were one of the biggest selling of all AOR bands and had plenty of hits. Bad English was a supergroup from the members of Journey and The Babys and their debut was a classic album and one of the best of the later AOR glory period.

Well IV is the more famous album but The Seventh One is the superior album.

Like I said before you really need to do two cats for AOR and Arena as it will end up being a mess. For example AOR is primarily an American west coast movement so most of its bands come from there, of course there were a lot of big AOR bands that didn't, but they still looked like that they came from California

Even then its rock and pop influenced bands sounded quite different as well. All the bands were pretty smooth sounding and Foreigner was about as rough around the edges that they got, but that was probably due to its half British band members.

I'd put Meat Loaf and British bands like Def Leppard in a different cat, in fact Van Hagar era Van Halen was probably nearer to AOR on their commercial stuff than Def Leppard ever were.

Personally I'd go with the two lists I sent earlier and create a third for arena rock, you've already got enough lists to last you for the next ten years, so two or three extra lists won't make much difference.

****ing brilliant!

Also, have Asia been added.

(Note to self: check OP)...

Edit: not that I can see....

TechnicLePanther · 01-16-2016, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

****ing brilliant!

Also, have Asia been added.

(Note to self: check OP)...

Edit: not that I can see....

Asia have not been added. In fact, I think I'll take the current list down, and repost it here. We're currently trying to work out an AOR and an Arena Rock list, and there's been a lot of back and forth about what specifically should be on there. Until then, here's the current list:

Arena Rock

1. Toto - IV
2. Journey – Escape or Frontiers
3. Boston – Boston
4. Styx – The Grand Illusion
5. Strangeways – Native Sons
6. Def Leppard – Hysteria
7. Meat Loaf – Bat Out of Hell
8. Rush – Moving Pictures
9. Foreigner – 4
10. Asia - Asia

I added Asia just in case we decide to leave the current list as is.

Trollheart · 01-16-2016, 02:41 PM

Thanks. Not to be a pain (though I am), but how can you have a Rock Opera section and not include Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds? And you have Bat Out of Hell in that? BOOH is not a rock opera, nor anywhere near it. Not that I know of, anyway. Operatic, yes. Opera, no.

TechnicLePanther · 01-16-2016, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Thanks. Not to be a pain (though I am), but how can you have a Rock Opera section and not include Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds? And you have Bat Out of Hell in that? BOOH is not a rock opera, nor anywhere near it. Not that I know of, anyway. Operatic, yes. Opera, no.

Ooh, I do sort of agree. Alright, why don't we stick Bat Out of Hell in arena and put WotW in Rock Opera.

EDIT- Wayne still doesn't eclipse Ziggy in title length. :P

The Batlord · 01-16-2016, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Thanks. Not to be a pain (though I am), but how can you have a Rock Opera section and not include Jeff Wayne's The War of the Worlds? And you have Bat Out of Hell in that? BOOH is not a rock opera, nor anywhere near it. Not that I know of, anyway. Operatic, yes. Opera, no.

How about because that album is equal parts laughable and terrible?

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William_the_Bloody Music Addict Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Sunnydale Cemetary Posts: 2,093	Just a thought. When I started the survivor threads I started with bands not albums. I find this more fun because your taking an artists entire work into the equation when voting. and some genres of rock music, particularly punk, aren't well suited for albums because often their best music was on EP's and singles. (Ie the Dead Kennedys Police Truck and the Holiday in Cambodia singles version) were never put on an album until the Give me Convenience or Give me Death compilation. So just a thought.