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Trollheart 05-19-2015 05:07 AM

Manowar or Maiden?
 
Let's do this just to annoy Batty. Vote and show him how inferior his favourite band is to a true metal icon... :thumb: ;)

The Batlord 05-19-2015 05:23 AM

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Plankton 05-19-2015 06:01 AM

I've never really listened to Man O Dork, so I can't compare the two. If Batfart wants to throw what he considers their best out there, I'll have a listen and post my thoughts.

Janszoon 05-19-2015 06:04 AM

Vote: Slayer

Guybrush 05-19-2015 06:19 AM

The only Man-O-Bore song I've heard was Warriors of the World or something ("Warriors everywhere, raise your hands into the air"?). I wouldn't mind it if Flatboard gave us some highlights, though. I'll hold my vote until I can better compare the two.

The Batlord 05-19-2015 06:29 AM

Behold!







Plankton 05-19-2015 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1591189)
Flatboard

http://parajournalism.com/wp-content...brilliant.jpeg

Oriphiel 05-19-2015 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WhateverDude (Post 1479004)

R-A-M-O-N-E-S




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Guybrush 05-19-2015 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591194)
Behold!


Anthemic and cheesy bordering on lame. In other words, pretty awesome stuff!

I enjoy this.


Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591194)



Blood of the kings is definitely my favorite of these two. It is kinda Iron Maiden / Judas Priesty combined with the cheesy chorus from a Rhapsody song. It's not a bad mix.

Plankton 05-19-2015 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591194)

Ok, this one first.

The intro is poorly done, and sounds like he needs to tune his guitar, or he's using a cheap guitar with bad intonation. Now, the weak drums kick in, with a poor attempt at double bass trills. When the main riff starts, I can already tell there will be much pomp. I hate pomp. Trying to be all glorious, and majestic is really kind of silly. Dream Theater does this quite a bit, as does Dragonforce. The vocals are laughable. Just... is this all a joke? I'm not even gonna to continue.

If this type of music takes you to your happy place, then more power to ya. For me, it's pretty lame.

The Batlord 05-19-2015 07:00 AM

Tore likes Manowar. I officially win. And if Tore wants cheese...



Guybrush 05-19-2015 07:46 AM

Thanks Bats Waller.

I don't listen to much metal these days, but .. if cheesy, lame ass metal is a joke, then I wanna be in on it.

There's something delightfully uncompromising about someone dressing up like a beef jerky spandex warrior from a B movie cover and singing songs about dragons at the top of their lungs. It's daring to loudly love something which most people think is retarded, like a grown man declaring his love for D&D x100.

The kid in me thinks that D&D and dragons and warriors and shit rules and it's a part of me that I treasure.

Plankton 05-19-2015 08:02 AM

I played D&D well into my 20's. I still think it's great. Man O War and dressing up like a spandex what ever you wanna call it, not so much.

The Batlord 05-19-2015 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1591236)
I played D&D well into my 20's. I still think it's great. Man O War and dressing up like a spandex what ever you wanna call it, not so much.

Then go listen to Animals as Leaders (i.e. derivative Meshuggah wannabes).

Plankton 05-19-2015 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591259)
Then go listen to Animals as Leaders (i.e. derivative Meshuggah wannabes).

They don't really do anything for me either. I do appreciate the talent though, and it has nothing to do with why I don't like MOW. Kind of a childish response there basement boy, but that's pretty much on par for the course aint it.

The Batlord 05-19-2015 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Plankton (Post 1591267)
They don't really do anything for me either. I do appreciate the talent though, and it has nothing to do with why I don't like MOW. Kind of a childish response there basement boy, but that's pretty much on par for the course aint it.

I'm sorry, were you expecting college-level discourse from me on this thread?

Plankton 05-19-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591324)
I'm sorry, were you expecting college-level discourse from me on this thread?

You're not sorry, and I don't think you're capable of College-Level anything, so nope.

Trollheart 05-19-2015 10:20 AM

(ahem)

The Batlord 05-19-2015 11:03 AM

So you committed a blatant logical fallacy in the other thread, multiple times I might add, and now you're trying to save face by starting a discussion in another thread? Sad.

Trollheart 05-19-2015 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591392)
So you committed a blatant logical fallacy in the other thread, multiple times I might add, and now you're trying to save face by starting a discussion in another thread? Sad.

So your're ignoring all my points, trying to wriggle away from the inescapable fact and conclusion that EVERY metal band rates Maiden, and are fighting me with quotes from Wiki? Sad. You're losin' boy, you're losin' big time. Address my point, or admit defeat. (You can fall on your sword if that helps you save face, but hurry it up as I got places to be) :pssst:

The Batlord 05-19-2015 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1591401)
So your're ignoring all my points, trying to wriggle away from the inescapable fact and conclusion that EVERY metal band rates Maiden, and are fighting me with quotes from Wiki? Sad. You're losin' boy, you're losin' big time. Address my point, or admit defeat. (You can fall on your sword if that helps you save face, but hurry it up as I got places to be) :pssst:

Quotes from Wiki? It's an academically recognized logical fallacy. The fact that you are unfamiliar with it is your problem. Here's several more sites that will explain just why appealing to majority opinion as a logical argument is wrong.


Fallacy: Appeal to Popularity

Appeal to Popularity

Logical Fallacies» Appeal to Popularity

ad populum fallacy - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com


Of course, this is also appealing to authority, which is another logical fallacy all by itself.


Fallacy: Appeal to Authority

Appeal to Authority

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority

Logical Fallacies» Appeal to Authority


So am I getting through to you? Your entire argument is based on logical fallacies so easy to recognize and tear down that I don't even know why I have to point them out. You lost the minute you tried mentioned Maiden's popularity.

Goofle 05-19-2015 12:04 PM

Anal beads imo

Trollheart 05-19-2015 03:00 PM

You lost the moment you made your Manowar thread. You are now floundering. The end.

Mondo Bungle 05-19-2015 04:06 PM

never understand why he doesn't post the cool Manowar songs


The Batlord 05-19-2015 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1591488)
You lost the moment you made your Manowar thread. You are now floundering. The end.

I am now going to ignore you. I feel like an atheist debating a fundamentalist Christian, my logical arguments falling on the deaf ears of one either incapable of, or unwilling to understand them. Seriously. Logical fallacies. They're a thing. Look them up.

Trollheart 05-20-2015 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1591637)
I am now going to ignore you. I feel like an atheist debating a fundamentalist Christian, my logical arguments falling on the deaf ears of one either incapable of, or unwilling to understand them. Seriously. Logical fallacies. They're a thing. Look them up.

That's just amazing, as that's exactly how I feel about you. If you want to make an argument, make it. Don't throw a load of gifs and smart remarks around and think that makes your point, while ignoring the logical arguments of the other person.

The Batlord 05-20-2015 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1591669)
That's just amazing, as that's exactly how I feel about you. If you want to make an argument, make it. Don't throw a load of gifs and smart remarks around and think that makes your point, while ignoring the logical arguments of the other person.

One more time. Your argument is flawed and does not bear consideration because...


Logical Fallacies» Appeal to Authority


and

Logical Fallacies» Appeal to Popularity


Please do not respond until you have reviewed these, and considered why they might apply to your argument. If after that you still do not understand the point I am making, then you are stupid.

Plankton 05-20-2015 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mondo Bungle (Post 1591519)
never understand why he doesn't post the cool Manowar songs

Because that's impossible.

Frownland 05-20-2015 06:36 AM

Manowar sucks but so do fallacies. Tsk tsk Trollheart.

FRED HALE SR. 05-20-2015 12:19 PM

I'd have a hard time picking between the two if Manowar wasn't so horrible and Maiden wasn't so awesome.

matheus canteri 05-26-2015 03:22 PM

Up the Irons!


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