Rock Album Survivor

Unknown Soldier · 05-18-2015, 03:49 AM

I think Urban has given you a very good glam list but it's a bit too diverse for it's own good. Maybe you need to simplify it even more or have two different sections there. I mean how are you going to put Motley Crue on a list with Roxy Music? I'd vote Motley Crue everytime there but the rest of the forum's non-metal fans would go with Roxy everytime, so you're going to end up with battles from bands that have two very different client bases.

I'd put bands like Roxy Music, Lou Reed and David Bowie on an Art Rock list and keep the glam list to those bands that have a rock/hard rock and metal feel on another one.

Btw will drum up some lists for you a bit later as well.

The Batlord · 05-18-2015, 05:49 AM

Before I pass out, this is what I've got so far.

Spoiler for idfbv:

Oriphiel · 05-18-2015, 09:14 AM

For Glam Rock, Suzi Quatro had a killer debut album, and it's consistently rated as one of the best Glam albums of the UK...

For Garage Rock, Paul Revere and the Raiders were way more awesome and influential than some of those choices in my opinion, and "Midnight Ride" is a killer album (especially the song "Steppin' Stone", which went on to become one of the most popular and defining songs of Garage and Punk Rock. Everyone from The Monkees to The Sex Pistols got in on the Steppin' Stone action)...

And for Proto Punk, you could basically just call it "Garage Rock Part Two"

. Anyway, don't forget about Killing Floor. Also, a bunch of Garage bands had some good albums with Punk moments here and there, like The La De Das, The Zakary Thaks, and The Shadows of Knight...

Spoiler for examples:

**Frownland** · 05-18-2015, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I'm down, but are Suicide really no wave? They were around almost a decade earlier than any of those groups, and don't really share much in common with them musically. You've left off Confusion Is Sex. And I wouldn't normally use a compilation album, but considering how important it was, I think No New York should definitely be considered. Have to give most of the second half of that list a listen. Not to mention Mars' album. I don't remember how good it was, but it definitely bears revisiting.

They're normally lumped in with the movement with the pioneer label, which is why I put them on there. Though I think that Mars can take their slot with their Mars Live album. I considered putting No New York up, but we already have TJ and the Jerks, the Contortions, DNA, and now Mars on the list so everyone on that compilation is already being represented. As far as Confusion Is Sex, I didn't pick that because I like all of these albums more. If we had to put it on there for influence's sake, we can toss out Lounge Lizards since they're the least no wave-y of the bunch (I'd rather not because they're way better than SY in any case).

EDIT: This Heat's Deceit deserves a spot on the post-punk list for not only being one of the best post punk records but also for being one of the best all around records. I think it'd be safe to take Talking Heads off and put Remain in Light in a new wave battle instead of post punk to make a spot of Deceit. TH is still post punk, it's just that their new wave element is a little higher up on their totem pole of styles. It'd also be nice to see Television's Marquee Moon on the list, but it's difficult thinking of who to throw off.

EDIT (PART TWO): USA and Fifty Foot Hose should replace a few of the questionable albums on the psychedelic rock list.

The Batlord · 05-18-2015, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

For Garage Rock, Paul Revere and the Raiders were way more awesome and influential than some of those choices in my opinion, and "Midnight Ride" is a killer album (especially the song "Steppin' Stone", which went on to become one of the most popular and defining songs of Garage and Punk Rock. Everyone from The Monkees to The Sex Pistols got in on the Steppin' Stone action)...

And for Proto Punk, you could basically just call it "Garage Rock Part Two"

. Anyway, don't forget about Killing Floor. Also, a bunch of Garage bands had some good albums with Punk moments here and there, like The La De Das, The Zakary Thaks, and The Shadows of Knight...

Spoiler for examples:

The problem with garage rock, is that most of it was inferior imitations of British Invasion bands. They'd have a good single or two, but mediocre albums. Most of the actual good sixties garage rock bands did something beyond just make frat rock anthems (e.g. the Stooges, the Monks, the Sonics) Do you really think Paul Revere and the Raiders have an album that has any place in the same thread as early Rolling Stones or Little Richard?

That's why I took a liberal view to garage rock, otherwise the list would just be the redheaded stepchild of the rock and roll list. Garage rock revival bands for the most part are far superior to the bands that inspired them. And I threw Jon Spencer in there cause he's garage rock enough to qualify, and I just wouldn't know where else to put him.

The Batlord · 05-18-2015, 08:23 PM

I think I'm starting with straight up rock and roll as it was a relatively easy list to come up with. Any problems with this list before we officially begin?

And if anyone is bothered by the relative lack of early cracker rock like Jerry Lee Lewis or Gene Vincent, then you can suck it. White people didn't catch up to black rock and roll until the British learned how to do it in the sixties. Deal with it. If I could justify taking Elvis and Buddy Holly off the list, I'd do it in an instant.

Rock and Roll

1. Elvis Presley - Elvis Presley
2. Little Richard - Here's Little Richard
3. Yardbirds - Having a Rave Up
4. Buddy Holly (The Crickets) - The "Chirping" Crickets
5. The Who - My Generation
6. The Rolling Stones - Aftermath [UK version]
7. Small Faces - The Small Faces ['66 debut]
8. Bo Diddley - Have Guitar, Will Travel
9. Chuck Berry - Berry Is on Top
10. The Animals - The Animals [UK version]

**Goofle** · 05-18-2015, 08:27 PM

May as well get the crappy ones out of the way first.

The Batlord · 05-18-2015, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle

May as well get the crappy ones out of the way first.

Talk to Bo Diddley's hand, until it hits you in the face.

Unknown Soldier · 05-19-2015, 07:22 AM

The only person on this forum that I'm even aware of that likes this ancient 50s stuff is Neapolitan and I think Janszoon likes it as well. So you've got just two players there Batty, not even an old man like Trollheart listens to this stuff

The Batlord · 05-19-2015, 07:25 AM

Not my fault if a bunch of idiots need their music to be shiny.

05-18-2015, 09:14 AM	#33 (permalink)
Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,354	For Glam Rock, Suzi Quatro had a killer debut album, and it's consistently rated as one of the best Glam albums of the UK... For Garage Rock, Paul Revere and the Raiders were way more awesome and influential than some of those choices in my opinion, and "Midnight Ride" is a killer album (especially the song "Steppin' Stone", which went on to become one of the most popular and defining songs of Garage and Punk Rock. Everyone from The Monkees to The Sex Pistols got in on the Steppin' Stone action)... And for Proto Punk, you could basically just call it "Garage Rock Part Two" . Anyway, don't forget about Killing Floor. Also, a bunch of Garage bands had some good albums with Punk moments here and there, like The La De Das, The Zakary Thaks, and The Shadows of Knight... Spoiler for examples: