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Frownland 08-18-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1627123)
I'm hoping to be able to get through top ten lists this year too, but at the moment the workload looks pretty huge. Still, I did it last year. So if I can manage it I'll definitely include yours.

If you want you can remove my Carboniferous recommendation earlier in the thread since it's on Wpnfire's list.

Wpnfire 08-18-2015 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1627142)
If you want you can remove my Carboniferous recommendation earlier in the thread since it's on Wpnfire's list.

No that's not necessary. I'll just suppliment it with another album from the spare album list I provided.

Actually, since Trollheart says he's busy he can just use my original list and ignore the albums he's already done.

mythsofmetal 08-19-2015 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1626271)
All right, once again I have to bow to Batty's superior knowledge of metal subgenres. He said Funeral Doom would bore me to tears and, only three albums in, I'm ready to say **** it I'm not listening to any more of that! Talk about mind-numbingly slow and boring!

My idea now is to change the "What's that all about?" section to encompass Atmospheric Black Metal, so if anyone can shout with decent bands/albums I could use in this, I would appreciate it as I've already wasted about a week on Funeral Doom which I can not use now, unless I think of some other way to utilise or feature those albums. But WTAA? needs to be sorted, so any help very much appreciated. Also, any insight on best countries for this genre, how it differs significantly from normal Black Metal, and so on.

Thanks guys!

If you're still looking for and interested in Atmospheric Black Metal recommendations, here are some for you to look into for Metal Month III. (I also find it difficult to distinguish exactly where to draw the line between normal Black Metal and Atmospheric, but I'll try my best, and I'm fine with anyone chiming in on my selections for a second opinion if they feel the choices aren't suitable.)


Ulver - Bergtatt - Et Eeventyr i 5 Capitler -- (I'm pretty sure this should count, and by my search results it doesn't seem that you've mentioned it before, so I'm guessing you've not done a review of it yet.)

Dämmerfarben - Im Abendrot -- (This should fit the bill, though it has a pretty large bit of Folk influence, some decent level of Folk influence is pretty common in a lot of Atmospheric Black Metal and other BM by my account.)

Folkvang - Six Stories Without Keys -- Six Stories Without Keys | Folkvang

Sear Bliss - The Haunting -- (I'm not sure whether this would better fit under symphonic, but quite a few parts are very atmospheric, and most are at least decently so.)

Caladan Brood - Echoes of Battle -- (maybe this is more Epic Black Metal/Pagan/Folk Metal, though I still feel it as being pretty atmospheric, just not exactly like some others.) - Echoes of Battle | Caladan Brood

Empyrium - Songs of Moors and Misty Fields -- (Pretty folky, but I don't think this one is deniable.) - Songs Of Moors And Misty Fields | Empyrium

Arthemesia - Devs Iratvs -- (Maybe this is more Symphonic or Melodic Black Metal than Atmospheric, but it's a pretty well blended mix I'd say.)


Someone else can pick a Burzum album if there's one TH hasn't heard that would fit the more atmospheric bill. I'm uncertain, but I'm pretty sure you; Trollheart, have heard Filosofem, right? If not, then either that or some other mid-90's release of his would probably do.

Trollheart 08-19-2015 05:20 AM

That's great thanks. Yes I had heard Filosem (loved it) and I've also heard that Ulver is one I should definitely listen to, so I'll put all those on the list.

grindy 08-19-2015 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1626271)
All right, once again I have to bow to Batty's superior knowledge of metal subgenres. He said Funeral Doom would bore me to tears and, only three albums in, I'm ready to say **** it I'm not listening to any more of that! Talk about mind-numbingly slow and boring!

My idea now is to change the "What's that all about?" section to encompass Atmospheric Black Metal, so if anyone can shout with decent bands/albums I could use in this, I would appreciate it as I've already wasted about a week on Funeral Doom which I can not use now, unless I think of some other way to utilise or feature those albums. But WTAA? needs to be sorted, so any help very much appreciated. Also, any insight on best countries for this genre, how it differs significantly from normal Black Metal, and so on.

Thanks guys!

I've been listening to some atmospheric BM lately.
A few fun albums you might not have heard yet:

Nyktalgia - Nyktalgia
Wolves In The Throne Room - Two Hunters
Gris - Il Etait Une Foret
Paysage D'Hiver - Paysage D'Hiver
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God

Frownland 08-19-2015 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1627477)
Paysage D'Hiver - Paysage D'Hiver

I seriously thought of sending him this one in my recs, but I figured that it's too awesome for TH to get any enjoyment out of it.

grindy 08-19-2015 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1627479)
I seriously thought of sending him this one in my recs, but I figured that it's too awesome for TH to get any enjoyment out of it.

I hesitated to list it, but then thought 'What the hell, he might enjoy the violin'.

The Batlord 08-19-2015 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1627477)
Blut Aus Nord - The Work Which Transforms God


I would love for TH to listen to this album.

Trollheart 08-25-2015 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1568804)
I may indeed feature more Sigh, however I had already, by the end of Metal Month II, decided that Judas Priest were going to be the featured artiste next year, and so they shall be. I have heard very little by them and am interested to see what I've been missing.


I'll pop it in the folder, but remember, don't just choose albums you know I'll hate (Batty has that covered); it should have some chance of either converting me (like Sigh and whoever did Geist ist tuefel) or giving me something at least to say about it other than OOH MY EARS!!!

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1568805)
I don't know, the instrumentation is fantastic.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1568821)
Hmm. We shall see.

Interesting conversation, given what happened.
Any more recs of any sort, especially ABM?

Frownland 08-25-2015 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1629278)
Interesting conversation, given what happened.
Any more recs of any sort, especially ABM?

grindy kind of took everything else I would've recced. How about
Dirge - Hyperion

mythsofmetal 08-25-2015 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1629278)
Interesting conversation, given what happened.
Any more recs of any sort, especially ABM?

October Falls - The Womb of Primordial Nature -- The Womb Of Primordial Nature | Debemur Morti Productions

Schattenvald - III -- (This is really on the atmospheric side, probably more akin to some of the recs you've gotten from others.)
Spoiler for All six songs from the album:
- - - - -


Janvs - Vega -- (This gets into a more BlackGaze, third wave-BM style than others I've recommended and not all of it is completely atmospheric, but a large portion of it is, and I'm thinking you would enjoy it.)

Midnight Odyssey - Shards of Silver Fade -- (It's quite a long, double album, over two hours, and there's a chance it may bore you. Even though I've already said that I'm fine with you picking and choosing from all my recs and refusing to do any you don't feel up to, I feel I must stress that again for this that I'm fine if you choose to not go through with reviewing them.) -- Shards Of Silver Fade | I, Voidhanger Records

Kvist - For Kunsten Maa Vi Evige Vike -- (I'm not sure if this would really count, rather than maybe be labelled Melodic Black Metal or just regular second wave, though think it's fairly atmospheric, and a gem from the mid 90's.)

Saor - Aura -- (Very much a Folk/Pagan Metal album, but with obvious, apparant Black Metal in its sound and very atmospheric. Worth a listen even if you don't decide to do it for you ABM segment, though I think it would appropriately fit.) -- Aura | Saor

Trollheart 08-25-2015 05:36 PM

If it's okay with you, I'm going to credit the selections in that section during Metal Month to you. I have found some amazing music thanks to you and I doubt I would have done so just flailing around in the dark as I usually do, so I'd like to credit you when I write the section.

mythsofmetal 08-25-2015 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1629639)
If it's okay with you, I'm going to credit the selections in that section during Metal Month to you. I have found some amazing music thanks to you and I doubt I would have done so just flailing around in the dark as I usually do, so I'd like to credit you when I write the section.

You can credit me if you would like, I'm fine with it. I'm glad you've liked quite a bit of what I've recommended, and appreciate your thanks. I will see about finding anything else which may work for that segment of yours for Metal Month soon, though I think I've rec'd the bulk of what I think would be appropriate for it of the bands I know. Also, I'm just wondering how exactly the crediting would work, since others have recommended you some Atmospheric Black Metal stuff, I think they should be credited for their contributions too (which you may have planned to do so anyways, I might have been a little confused with what you said initially,) and I'm pretty sure others had recommended that Ulver album earlier, so I really feel I should only take credit for recommending the specific albums I have.

Also, would you be open to mentioning which recommendations you have liked the most of the ones I've sent your way? I'm fine if you want to leave that for when you start posting your reviews, though I'm curious which ones have been the best. However, I'm fine with waiting until October, too, since that's the time when your opinion of these albums, and all of the other Metal related stuff has been planned to be posted.

Trollheart 08-26-2015 05:45 AM

I'll be happy to PM you if you want, but I generally like to save any impressions, good or bad, of what I've listened to for the actual Metal Month itself. It took a lot not to tell everyone (who cared) how much I was impressed by Sigh, but it made the post more interesting and impacted much better.

As for the credits, well I was thinking of something like "compiled with the invaluable advice help and direction of...." I think there is one other person here who has suggested a raft of ABM albums, so probably just you two. Anyone who mentioned Ulver over the months is just a general "oh you should listen to this" sort of thing, but you and (damn I can't remember who it was) went out of your way to put some recs together and helped really drive the section, so I think that deserves to be recognised.

Edit: it was Grindy.

Trollheart 08-29-2015 01:59 PM

Second Year Syndrome
 
I'm aware that last year I trashed, or at least was very unkind to, a lot of albums that were suggested by members here. There was of course no intention to insult or belittle anyone's choice of music, but I'm aware that I may not have given some of the albums a fair chance.

As a result, I offer you the opportunity to convince me. If you think an album of yours received too harsh treatment in Metal Month II, or was not given a fair chance, post and tell me and I will listen to it again and advise what my feelings are about it, one year on. I won't be re-reviewing anything, but I will tell you if, now that my appreciation of/tolerance for the more extreme types of metal is starting to change and grow and adapt, I have a different opinion of it than I did in 2014.

I'll then feature all the albums in a section called (guess?) "Second Year Syndrome", where I'll write a brief (and I mean brief) piece on each, telling you what, if anything, has changed my mind about the albums.

So I'm talking to those who recced albums for "Don't listen to that --- listen to this!" and the top tens of course. Batty's Torture Chamber albums are exempt, as I was supposed to hate them.

Trollheart 08-30-2015 02:54 PM

What, nobody? You all think I was fair to your albums? Even Swarrrm?? :yikes:

On another note, here are the winners of the 2015 Members' Top Ten Lists, in no order:
Frownland
Ninetales
Wpnfire


As the first two of you did your lists last year you may want to update/change them; if so do so soon, as I will be diving into them from tomorrow. Frownland's will be up first, god help me....

Trollheart 08-30-2015 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1627482)
I would love for TH to listen to this album.

Your wish has been granted...
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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1627479)
I seriously thought of sending him this one in my recs, but I figured that it's too awesome for TH to get any enjoyment out of it.

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Originally Posted by grindy (Post 1627481)
I hesitated to list it, but then thought 'What the hell, he might enjoy the violin'.

All will be revealed in a month's time...

Frownland 08-30-2015 07:47 PM

Switched out two of them that I know you've heard. Let me know if you've heard these ones and I'll replace those ones as well.

1. Naked City - Torture Garden
2. Fantômas - Fantômas (Amenaza al Mundo)
3. Sunn O))) - Black One
4. White Suns - Totem
5. Gorguts - Obscura
6. Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
7. Electric Wizard - Time to Die
8. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood
9. Zu - Cortar Todo
10. Man is the Bastard - Thoughtless

The Batlord 08-30-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1631482)
Switched out two of them that I know you've heard. Let me know if you've heard these ones and I'll replace those ones as well.

1. Naked City - Torture Garden
2. Fantômas - Fantômas (Amenaza al Mundo)
3. Sunn O))) - Black One
4. White Suns - Totem
5. Gorguts - Obscura
6. Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
7. Electric Wizard - Time to Die
8. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood
9. Zu - Cortar Todo
10. Man is the Bastard - Thoughtless

He'll love it.

Trollheart 08-31-2015 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1631482)
Switched out two of them that I know you've heard. Let me know if you've heard these ones and I'll replace those ones as well.

1. Naked City - Torture Garden
2. Fantômas - Fantômas (Amenaza al Mundo)
3. Sunn O))) - Black One
4. White Suns - Totem
5. Gorguts - Obscura
6. Darkthrone - A Blaze in the Northern Sky
7. Electric Wizard - Time to Die
8. The Body - All the Waters of the Earth Turn to Blood
9. Zu - Cortar Todo
10. Man is the Bastard - Thoughtless

Thank you. I've been suffering through Primus and now I can hit "stop". Nothing could be as awful as that.

The Batlord 08-31-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1631623)
Thank you. I've been suffering through Primus and now I can hit "stop". Nothing could be as awful as that.

I wouldn't call Primus awful, but "shit" definitely comes to mind.

Trollheart 08-31-2015 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire (Post 1568922)
Should you try metalcore perhaps? Since you know a lot more about the genre than a year ago.

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1631719)
I wouldn't call Primus awful, but "shit" definitely comes to mind.

It's not even so much that it's awful but that it's nothing I would even consider metal...

The Batlord 08-31-2015 08:12 PM

If you're still taking top tens, then here's mine. Don't know if it's definitive, but I suck at rating the music I listen to, so this is as good as I'm going to do (also why they're in no particular order). I tried to leave off albums I thought you'd heard, hence the lack of Sabbath, Saxon, Slayer, and Maiden.


1. Bathory - Nordland I
2. Arkangel - Dead Man Walking
3. Motley Crue - Too Fast for Love
4. Metallica - Kill 'Em All
5. HammerFall - Renegade
6. Exodus - Bonded by Blood
7. At the Gates - Slaughter of the Soul
8. Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness
9. Anthrax - Spreading the Disease
10. Bathory - Bathory


And yes, after all that soul searching, I still couldn't part with either Bathory album.

Ninetales 08-31-2015 11:07 PM

I don't remember what mine was last year but ok here goes

1. Ultima Thulee by Blut aus Nord
2. Hin-Fort by Trist
3. Through Silver in Blood by Neurosis
4. Unholy Cult by Immolation
5. Autumn Aurora by Drudkh
6. Wake/Lift by Rosetta
7. Verrater by Leviathan
8. Murmuure by Murmuure
9. Weighing Souls With Sand by The Angelic Process
10. Onward to Golgotha by Incantation

wow lots left off jee whiz this was not easy.

Trollheart 09-01-2015 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1631905)
I don't remember what mine was last year but ok here goes

1. Ultima Thulee by Blut aus Nord
2. Hin-Fort by Trist
3. Through Silver in Blood by Neurosis
4. Unholy Cult by Immolation
5. Autumn Aurora by Drudkh
6. Wake/Lift by Rosetta
7. Verrater by Leviathan
8. Murmuure by Murmuure
9. Weighing Souls With Sand by The Angelic Process
10. Onward to Golgotha by Incantation

wow lots left off jee whiz this was not easy.

This was your original list last year:

1. Ultima Thulee by Blut aus Nord
-raw icy black metal


2. Unholy Cult by Immolation
-earth-opening death metal


3. Wake/Lift by Rosetta
-one of those dreams where you're just falling, but in sludge metal form


4. Autumn Aurora by Drudkh
-there is no better way to describe this other than the album title.


5. Through Silver in Blood by Neurosis
-I'm not sure why but I get the image of a factory on fire when listening. Thick black smoke


6. The Mantle by Agalloch
-or "how to cope with being indefinitely alone"

7. Onward to Golgotha by Incantation
-soundtrack of hell


8. Hin-Fort by Trist
-will probably be my next entry into that 1001 albums thing so stay tuned


9. Verrater by Leviathan
-holy shit

10. Blood of the Hermit by Mortualia
-depressing as all hell

Those still on your new list are in red. **** man, hardly any change! :thumb:

Ninetales 09-01-2015 08:42 AM

haha wow thats pretty crazy actually. either list is fine really as the two off each list are pretty much interchangable anyway.

The Batlord 09-01-2015 11:05 AM

My list is good, then? I figured there was a good chance you'd heard Kill 'Em All, but I didn't want to take the chance.

Trollheart 09-01-2015 11:15 AM

Your list is good, though yes I have heard Kill 'em All (featured it in last Metal Month) and by the time I get to October I should have the Exodus one up in the 1001 Metal Albums journal. Also, you can only have one artiste for each album, so you're going to have to decide between your Bathorys.

But apart from that, I choose three top tens each year, and I have already chosen, and yours ain't in them. Too slow man, too slow...

Trollheart 09-02-2015 09:32 AM

Nine, we need to do something about this. After listening to (and admittedly enjoying) your double black metal album, you now present me with ANOTHER double, TWO ****ING HOURS long! I'm thinking of dumping your top ten and going with Batty's, I really am....

Edit: right I've checked and the rest are ok but this is not on. You're going to need to replace this one. I'm not listening to a single track that runs for an hour, then another seven that run for another hour! I'm on a tight schedule here!

Please pick another for your number 8 if you still want me to do your list.

Frownland 09-02-2015 09:50 AM

Waaaaaah are you talking about Trist? That albums awesome you'll love it you big crybaby.

Trollheart 09-02-2015 11:10 AM

You do it then. Two hours, with one song an hour long. No ****ing way. You realise the pressure I'm under to get this thing done? And I still have ten albums from Wpnfire to do. It's not a case of whether I'll enjoy it, it's whether I have the time to devote to reviewing it, and I don't have the latter.

Frownland 09-02-2015 11:25 AM

I have done it and it's a great album so I don't know what you're on about. It's your thread, so obviously you can operate how you like.

Ninetales 09-02-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1632350)
Nine, we need to do something about this. After listening to (and admittedly enjoying) your double black metal album, you now present me with ANOTHER double, TWO ****ING HOURS long! I'm thinking of dumping your top ten and going with Batty's, I really am....

Edit: right I've checked and the rest are ok but this is not on. You're going to need to replace this one. I'm not listening to a single track that runs for an hour, then another seven that run for another hour! I'm on a tight schedule here!

Please pick another for your number 8 if you still want me to do your list.

all goods. Sorry i didnt exactly remember what this list was for (didnt realize you were going through all of them), i was just making a list of my favorites.

Welcome My Last Chapter by Vinterland can replace Trist if you like.

Wpnfire 09-02-2015 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1632375)
You do it then. Two hours, with one song an hour long. No ****ing way. You realise the pressure I'm under to get this thing done? And I still have ten albums from Wpnfire to do.

The first album from my list is the 63-minute Dopesmoker that's one song. There's also the 45-minute Om album that only has three tracks and is extremely repetitive.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that Dopesmoker is one of the most repetitive songs ever made.

Trollheart 09-28-2015 03:38 PM

Okay guys I'm back and have we got a show for you!
Have we? I ****ing hope so! We do, don't we? We WHAT???!!! Oh, right. Yeah of course we do.

Seriously, this year's show is gonna totally rock!

Three days and counting...
http://www.trollheart.com/metalmonth3sml.png
Be there or be somewhere else.


No, seriously: be there.

The Batlord 09-28-2015 03:44 PM

Meh, I'm over it.

And I'd just like to remind everyone to criticize everything about how Trollheart conducts Metal Month. He loves that.

Trollheart 09-28-2015 04:46 PM

I do. It's true. Everyone else knows how to do it so much better than me, but I try.

Key 09-28-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1638288)
I do. It's true. Everyone else knows how to do it so much better than me, but I try.

Aww, thanks.

The Batlord 09-28-2015 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1638288)
I do. It's true. Everyone else knows how to do it so much better than I, but I try.

ftfy

The Batlord 09-30-2015 05:04 PM

I'm honestly curious, though, did you take all this time off because you were so behind, or you just had new ideas that you wanted to do, and/or old ideas that you wanted to flesh out more? I don't expect an OCD stick-in-the-mud to give any clues, but just askin'.


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