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![]() ![]() Maybe if it was Presence or their debut I'd go for Zeppelin over Sabbath, but IV doesn't hold four sticks to Paranoid imo.
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Paranoid is a seminal album for sure. But put next to each other, and judged song for song, LZIV kills it. I'll be OK with a Sabbath win though. I understand why they pretty much have to win this division.
Black Dog and When the Levee Breaks are both heavier than anything on Paranoid for sure though. You're drinking kool aid if you don't agree.
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Hand of Doom and War Pigs are far heavier than 'ooh baby, heeey baby, pretty baby tell me how you do me now'. I'm pretty sure you drank the kool aid man, I wasn't even alive when Jim Jones was handing out samples.
I would say that Zeppelin is louder than Sabbath, but that doesn't quite equate to heaviness. Sabbath has that gloom and attitude that make them far heavier imo.
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But this **** slays them as far as heavy goes. And even this:
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I'm talking about the music as well, the attitude and atmosphere that they create makes them way heavier. Those songs are louder and have a lot more energy, but like I said, that doesn't equate to heaviness for me. It does to some degree, but not in comparison to Sabbath's sound.
I've also always been of the opinion that stellarly executed morose and sludgy doom bands are heavier than high bpm shrieking death metal bands. Sabbath brought the doom and that makes them more heavy for me because they have a much more evil and dark sound than Zeppelin. Zeppelin - anthemic Sabbath - heavy
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I can get behind this to a degree. Sabbath was heavy because that's the blueprint they decided to follow. Zeppelin was just as heavy, but chose an open ended palette which may have diluted their lasting "heaviness" at the end of the day.
Good example IMO.
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Not to mention that The Beatles collaborated with Shankar, the best known raga master around.
Also, world music had been implemented into jazz through artists like Pharoah Sanders and John Coltrane before Zeppelin even formed.
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