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Old 03-17-2015, 04:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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No not having it...your leaving out some prominent releases.

Metalcore:

Parkway Drive - Killing with a smile
Bullet for My Valentine - The Poison
All that Remains (Not a fan, but they're huge as far as this genre goes)
No. Tried them. Boring. Parkway Drive is alright, but they just get so repetitive. Same thing I have against August Burns Red.

And how can you call my choices not prominent? By the time those three bands came on the scene, the genre was already established. Poison the Well and Killswitch are far more relevant than those bands as far as that kind of metalcore goes.

Also, I would shoot myself in the head before allowing Bullet for My ****ing Valentine anywhere near my list. I have no problem with generic melodic metalcore in theory, but that band is a crime against music.

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Snapcase metalcore?
Hell yeah! Unless you define metalcore by '00s standards and on. I don't see you complaining about Ringworm or Integrity.

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Grindcore:

change Brutal Truth to -Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses
Both are great, but seem to be held in equal enough esteem that a judgement call is acceptable. Brutal Truth upped the ante with Need to Control. Straight up.

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Insect Warfare: World Extermination
Awesome album, and it was actually on my original list, but it's overshadowed by more "evolved" grind, like Gridlink and Anaal Nathrakh, and I'd have to throw out Carcass to add them. I'd actually be perfectly willing to do this, but I already deep-sixed Napalm Death for Assuck and I can only leave out so many old school bands.

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Extreme Noise Terror -(either Damage 387 or holocaust in my head) It would seem weird not to have them in there.
Again, I already threw out Napalm Death. If nobody has any objections to me throwing out Carcass, then I'd be perfectly happy to give the spot to something like Extreme Noise Terror, or maybe Magrudergrind or Nails. Or Fuck the Facts.
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No. Tried them. Boring. Parkway Drive is alright, but they just get so repetitive. Same thing I have against August Burns Red.

And how can you call my choices not prominent? By the time those three bands came on the scene, the genre was already established. Poison the Well and Killswitch are far more relevant than those bands as far as that kind of metalcore goes

Also, I would shoot myself in the head before allowing Bullet for My ****ing Valentine anywhere near my list. I have no problem with generic melodic metalcore in theory, but that band is a crime against music.
I never said your list wasn't prominent, I simply said you are leaving out some prominent releases.

As for Snapcase, I would consider them to be more of a post hardcore band, Integrity & Ringworm sure...proto metalcore, but if your going to go this route, Earth Crisis was probably the biggest band in this genre. I'm not really bothered though, as I think they all suck lol.


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Again, I already threw out Napalm Death. If nobody has any objections to me throwing out Carcass, then I'd be perfectly happy to give the spot to something like Extreme Noise Terror, or maybe Magrudergrind or Nails. Or Fuck the Facts.

Its not for me to tell you how to run your survivor thread, but if you start cherry picking bands on the basis of whether you like them or not, you run the risk of alienating people who would otherwise play.

I had just assumed that Napalm Death was on the list, they are after all the most famous and successful band to grace the stage of grindcore, but your thread your choice.
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I never said your list wasn't prominent, I simply said you are leaving out some prominent releases.

As for Snapcase, I would consider them to be more of a post hardcore band, Integrity & Ringworm sure...proto metalcore, but if your going to go this route, Earth Crisis was probably the biggest band in this genre. I'm not really bothered though, as I think they all suck lol.
Again. Depends on your definition of metalcore. I see both bands referred to as founders of the genre, and if you're calling metalcore just metallic hardcore then they certainly qualify. Earth Crisis were also on the list, but I felt had much the same sound as Unbroken, who were better and more critically cited, even if they didn't have the exposure. So I bumped them.

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Its not for me to tell you how to run your survivor thread, but if you start cherry picking bands on the basis of whether you like them or not, you run the risk of alienating people who would otherwise play.

I had just assumed that Napalm Death was on the list, they are after all the most famous and successful band to grace the stage of grindcore, but your thread your choice.
I try not to cherry pick, but with only ten spots, certain genres just throw up even more than ten bands who are just as relevant and just as deserving of a spot. Napalm Death aren't much different than their contemporaries, and there were plenty of almost, if not just as equally influential bands with far more distinctive sounds that I figure would make for a more interesting battle.

I could always go and drop Discordance Axis like I said and add them if enough peope really care, but otherwise I'm not worried about it.
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