Dylstew

Mondo, you do understand how a band by a white supremacist kind of disturbs me as someone that's half(technically 75%) black.. Right?.

Speaking of racism, I hate how some people I know (Ones I like I might add) have called me a "bounty", or say I act like i'm " white". Well I was born here and grew up with white dutch people, what did you expect dip****? So you're not black if you're not a stereotype? Or if you don't have an accent? **** off.

Chula Vista

Kudos Briks. Great post.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Mondo Bungle

Yeah, shouldn't stop you from enjoying the dank ass riffs and mystical lyrics.

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Dylstew

I enjoy that, but i'm consantly having an uncomfortable feeling while listening aswell.

Mondo Bungle

If it already gives you an uncomfortable feeling, wait until you hear this

This is Burzum by the way, it doesn't say in the title.

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The Batlord

Regardless, you never know where his money is going. He's been linked to at least one group of dubious nature, the AHF, and while he claims that he isn't and was only vaguely associated with them at one time, you never know if the sixteen cents he gets from a copy of Filosofem might be going to a donation to a hate group. I have no issue listening to his music, but I don't give him money by buying his albums. Of course, if I could make my own Burzum shirt... I might be a pussy and just keep it in my dresser.

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Mondo Bungle

Not defending his actions or anything or acting like I know what he's up to, but I don't know how much hate mongering he's doing these days. He just chills on that farm playing board games and making videos about Paganism and trolls. I like to think he's remaining calm and settled down, and moved on from radical actions ie burning churches and murdering. Then again, donating to a group isn't really an outrageous action itself, so he could very well do stuff like that.

Out of sight out of mind amirite

I got the Darkthrone shirt instead.

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Mondo Bungle

what are aryans anyway

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The Batlord

According to Varg I think they're human beings who've been genetically engineered by aliens and placed on Atlantis.

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The Batlord

Two things, clearly as a partially black person (what's the last quarter if you don't mind me asking?) it's gonna be a more personal issue with you, but to me, Varg's whole crazy history---the murder, church burnings, and racism---is like a spice that makes his music somehow more exciting. I wouldn't listen to it if I didn't like it, but since I do there's also this other element that makes it like a car wreck that you can't look away from.

Think of all those Nazi/WWII documentaries that are everywhere on history-related cable channels. People like to talk about learning from history and whatnot, but really they probably just love to watch morbid stuff (not that history isn't interesting for other reasons, but I'm just saying). I made another more long-winded post somewhere on this site about being interested in death and negative things being an evolutionary adaptation to learn from things that might threaten the individual or species; if a deer sees another deer that's died for whatever reason, it would be wise for the living deer to be concerned with what might have happened to its dead compatriot, lest the same fate befall it, and the best way for evolution to ensure this interest is to make it pleasurable, just like making sex pleasurable is a good way to ensure mating.

So, while I can understand you personally being more repulsed by Varg's racism than I, as a Lilly-white cracker of Celtic ancestry, I'm just saying that you shouldn't necessarily feel morally obligated to not listen to Burzum, so long as you're not monetarily supporting Varg (I understand Mondo's point, since Varg's probably not particularly involved with racist organizations, but I'd still like him to give some thought to where his money might be going.)

And secondly, I don't know if you've listened to any Burzum, but if you can get over your issues with him as a person, would you really want to deny yourself this musical brilliance? \/








I might add that while Varg is certainly racist, negativity (i.e. **** this or that race) isn't what his music is about. It's more about celebrating his culture and educating people on Odinism and pre-Christian, Germanic peoples, which I see nothing wrong with. I'm all for globalism in general, as I certainly believe that the mixing of ideas and peoples leads to innovation that would be impossible if the races of man isolated themselves from one another, but I also think it's a tragedy for their individual cultures to be forgotten. He's 100% right about how the Christian churches almost obliterated Germanic and Scandinavian culture and everything that was good and interesting about it, and I will give him a lot of credit for researching and trying to preserve their teachings, even if his motivations disgust me.

TL;DR: don't worry about his lyrics as they, unlike some of his other views, are actually worth reading.

I highly recommend reading his writings on his website. He gives some not so good views, and even some downright despicable ones, not to mention some crazy nonsense that's good mostly for entertainment purposes, but there's also a lot of really interesting stuff on ancient Norse religion and culture that isn't tied into racism, and is really worth reading on their own merits. If you have any interest in ancient mythology or history, then I'd give it a go.

Burzum.com: The Music of Burzum and the Writings of Varg Vikernes | Library : Writings by Varg Vikernes

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