The Definition of 'Heavy Metal'

Isbjørn · 10-09-2014, 03:20 PM

Judas Priest being a NWOBHM band isn't obvious to me. They predated the inception of the movement, and they didn't embrace the whole punky lo-fi/DYI aesthetic of other groups like Saxon, Venom, and early Maiden. But I'm going to be more careful to talk about NWOBHM now too, as the fear of getting schooled by hatemongers is ever present.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 10-09-2014, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Briks

Judas Priest being a NWOBHM band isn't obvious to me. They predated the inception of the movement, and they didn't embrace the whole punky lo-fi, DYI aesthetic of other groups like Saxon, Venom, and early Maiden.

That's because they were one of the lucky ones and managed to get signed before the whole punk thing happened. They didn't need to.

Unknown Soldier · 10-16-2014, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

I've always thought of NWOBHM as a movement rather than a genre. Like British Invasion or British folk revival.

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

I don't know why we started focusing on why Priest is a NWOBHM band. I thought it was incredibly obvious; it's like disagreeing with slayer being a thrash band. Also Urban agrees with me so...

Anyway, we kind of got off topic about the point I was trying to make. I guess NWOBHM is shaky to refer to as an entire genre, so I guess I won't refer to NWOBHM as a genre anymore. I would also argue that referring to heavy metal as a particular genre of it, is also just as shaky

Just think of the NWOBHM as a movement of like-minded yet different heavy metal and hard rock bands that recorded their first albums in the 1979 to around 1983-1984 period. Certainly not a genre and just a geographical movement. If you explore the bands you'll see just how different many of them are.

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Originally Posted by Briks

Judas Priest being a NWOBHM band isn't obvious to me. They predated the inception of the movement, and they didn't embrace the whole punky lo-fi/DYI aesthetic of other groups like Saxon, Venom, and early Maiden. But I'm going to be more careful to talk about NWOBHM now too, as the fear of getting schooled by hatemongers is ever present.

Like Motorhead, Judas Priest get included because they were a major driving forcé behind it, but they along with Motorhead put out their first albums before the movement was even heard of, but all their albums from this period are like essential NWOBHM listens.

For the record bands like Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple and UFO were probably the biggest influences on it, even more so than Black Sabbath in my opinión. I tend to think of Black Sabbath as being the prime movers behind the extreme metal genres of the early to mid 1980s.

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