Is Grunge dead?

Necromancer · 08-10-2014, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

It is not preposterous because they are not grunge bands. Stone Temple Pilots were a Pearl Jam rip off band. Pearl Jam was explicitly not a grunge band. Half the band quit an actual grunge band because they did not want to play grunge. They wanted to indulge their love of classic rock and so they formed Mother Love Bone, and the rest is history. Ergo, any band who takes their sound from Pearl Jam, such as Stone Temple Pilots, is not a grunge band.

And Alice In Chains may have been influenced by actual grunge, but they were a metal band. They started out playing metal covers. They played their first tour with Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth. Their name was originally supposed to be a name for a hair band for god's sake. If you're going to call them a grunge band then you may as well call Danzig one too. AIC is closer to them than they ever were to Nirvana.

Just because bands happen to be associated with a genre that was packaged by record labels and MTV does not mean thsat they were actually of that genre. The grunge sound that was sold to the masses was for the most part not grunge. Period.

I might go as far in agreement that Alice in Chains were the missing link between grunge and metal in the nineties. and their album Dirt is included in a lot of top metal albums of the 90s. but other than that I stick to my original statement.

Bands that I consider metal during the 90s era were bands like Pantera, Megadeth and Metallica for example.I liked Skid Rows 91 release of Slave To The Grind OK.

**Janszoon** · 08-11-2014, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Nah, Pearl Jam still stinks.

Hush, you're disrupting my metaphor.

drummerboy95 · 08-13-2014, 04:06 PM

I don't think grunge is dead, in fact i've noticed a bit of a revival of early 90's rock music.

neardeathexperience · 08-13-2014, 09:44 PM

Yes it was packed away in Curt Cobain's coffin never to see the light of day again........

Necromancer · 08-13-2014, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by neardeathexperience

Yes it was packed away in Curt Cobain's coffin never to see the light of day again........

That is so... True.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-14-2014, 12:09 AM

I loved the grunge movement, era, whatever way people like to describe that time. Some great bands; Bush, back in the 90's weren't as commercial in sound as apposed to today. Gavin Rossdale remains my favorite singer from any grunge band. Hate me for it or pick on me for it. I think he's awesome.

I don't see a lot of grunge influenced bands or bands nowadays that are strictly that genuine grunge sound. Bands come and go that imitate it. Dead would be the wrong way to describe it. It's just not thriving. Truthfully I think the industry could benefit from a grunge overhaul. Some good writing back in the day it was popular.

Necromancer · 08-14-2014, 01:25 AM

Puddle of Mudd is a past artist that has always resembled the sound and style of Nirvana/Kurt Cobain. But the most enduring post grunge band that I think most resembles their sound is Seether.

Australias Silverchair always seemed like a good candidate for grunge that reminded me of Nirvana's sound.

I agree with the above that grunge produced a unique and different style of lyrics/writing during the 90s.

CoNtrivedNiHilism · 08-14-2014, 01:46 AM

Puddle of Mudd and their singer never were anything great in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure the guys in the band could do something else if they wanted, I may like it depending on the approach taken but, nothing really that original or great about Puddle of Mudd. I'd say that their singer Wes pinned lyrics that often would reflect that of a nu-metal song writing style with that nuanced grunge influence. I can't write off the band completely. Because they have their moments of decent music. That's as good as they get for me...

Wes lip synced at a more recent show the band played. He got pissed off at the crowd when they called him out. A bit of an unprofessional and childish move on his part. I don't see lip syncing as something anyone should do. If you can't do it live. Don't do it at all.

Anyway. Yeah. Grunge had some good song writers. Personally I thought Gavin Rossdale of Bush had a rather nice way of pinning lyrics. He wasn't always real great. But there are songs that really impress me, a good number of them. Bush is just great in my own mind. Yeah. Another forum member here stated that they are a commercial label band, I think it was The Batlord that said it. And you know, I cannot say he was wrong by saying it either. Back in the 90's however. Bush was more their own thing, still grunge, but also still more or less their own thing with their own list of influences. Nowadays. Gavin Rossdale is pinning a more commercial stylized lyric/and or Bush sound in general. The Sea Of Memories had some real good tracks with a nuanced influence of the bands glory days. But it wasn't a solid album all through either.

Silverchair is alright in my book. But I don't own any of their music. Don't really listen all that often either.

Necromancer · 08-14-2014, 07:48 AM

I liked Bush earlier in their career up to Prizefighter. Little Things and Everything Zen are classics. I kinda lost interest after the single Prizefighter though.

The Batlord · 08-14-2014, 07:56 AM

Not gonna lie. They weren't brilliant or anything, but I dig the singles they have on the radio. Competent Nirvana thievery.

08-13-2014, 04:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
drummerboy95 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 11	I don't think grunge is dead, in fact i've noticed a bit of a revival of early 90's rock music.

08-13-2014, 09:44 PM	#14 (permalink)
neardeathexperience Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 531	Yes it was packed away in Curt Cobain's coffin never to see the light of day again........

08-14-2014, 12:09 AM	#16 (permalink)
CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	I loved the grunge movement, era, whatever way people like to describe that time. Some great bands; Bush, back in the 90's weren't as commercial in sound as apposed to today. Gavin Rossdale remains my favorite singer from any grunge band. Hate me for it or pick on me for it. I think he's awesome. I don't see a lot of grunge influenced bands or bands nowadays that are strictly that genuine grunge sound. Bands come and go that imitate it. Dead would be the wrong way to describe it. It's just not thriving. Truthfully I think the industry could benefit from a grunge overhaul. Some good writing back in the day it was popular.

08-14-2014, 01:25 AM	#17 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Puddle of Mudd is a past artist that has always resembled the sound and style of Nirvana/Kurt Cobain. But the most enduring post grunge band that I think most resembles their sound is Seether. Australias Silverchair always seemed like a good candidate for grunge that reminded me of Nirvana's sound. I agree with the above that grunge produced a unique and different style of lyrics/writing during the 90s.

08-14-2014, 01:46 AM	#18 (permalink)
CoNtrivedNiHilism Because I Am, I Can! Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 1,128	Puddle of Mudd and their singer never were anything great in my opinion. I mean, I'm sure the guys in the band could do something else if they wanted, I may like it depending on the approach taken but, nothing really that original or great about Puddle of Mudd. I'd say that their singer Wes pinned lyrics that often would reflect that of a nu-metal song writing style with that nuanced grunge influence. I can't write off the band completely. Because they have their moments of decent music. That's as good as they get for me... Wes lip synced at a more recent show the band played. He got pissed off at the crowd when they called him out. A bit of an unprofessional and childish move on his part. I don't see lip syncing as something anyone should do. If you can't do it live. Don't do it at all. Anyway. Yeah. Grunge had some good song writers. Personally I thought Gavin Rossdale of Bush had a rather nice way of pinning lyrics. He wasn't always real great. But there are songs that really impress me, a good number of them. Bush is just great in my own mind. Yeah. Another forum member here stated that they are a commercial label band, I think it was The Batlord that said it. And you know, I cannot say he was wrong by saying it either. Back in the 90's however. Bush was more their own thing, still grunge, but also still more or less their own thing with their own list of influences. Nowadays. Gavin Rossdale is pinning a more commercial stylized lyric/and or Bush sound in general. The Sea Of Memories had some real good tracks with a nuanced influence of the bands glory days. But it wasn't a solid album all through either. Silverchair is alright in my book. But I don't own any of their music. Don't really listen all that often either.

08-14-2014, 07:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	I liked Bush earlier in their career up to Prizefighter. Little Things and Everything Zen are classics. I kinda lost interest after the single Prizefighter though.