How Stupid Were Metalheads Back In the Eighties

Necromancer · 08-08-2014, 09:05 AM

Huh, never really cared that much about them. I would've swore they existed during the 80s/MTV. My bad...

FRED HALE SR. · 08-08-2014, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So what, did the Beavis and Butthead types show up when thrash got popular off Headbanger's Ball around the late eighties or something? And what were your people? You guys obviously weren't the scary bikers.

Nope I was the lanky guy with dreads in high school. I think people feared i stunk a little so they usually let me pass in general. I was into the whole uk scene but I was one of those crossover types that loved metal from the beginning. The big difference between now and then is, people were so indignant when it came to the scenes that you had to choose your sides in a sense. I literally carried a knife to every show I went to.

The Batlord · 08-08-2014, 09:22 AM

I gotta say I'm feeling kind of ambivalent towards the whole modern metal fan world. I'd have no place with a bunch of scary bikers, and would be far too terrified to get in a pit with them, and the antics I'm hearing seem like they would make me feel like kind of an odd man out pussy, but all of that just makes a modern metal show seem Disney-fied. I can relate to your average metal fan these days, metal/deathcore kids aside, but going to a show just doesn't have any real edge. Sure I can get in the pit, and it's always fun don't get me wrong, but it feels like a carnival ride. You pay for a ticket, you go in, you have some safe quasi-rebellion, and then you brag to your friends about how badass you are just because you got a bloody nose. And I kind of feel disappointed by the fan reactions too. I heard stories of crazy metal fans tearing out seats, completely trashing venues, and suspending themselves from balconies to form an inverted cross and yell "SLAYER!!!" long before I ever went to see a show, and when I finally get there it's mostly a bunch of people standing there and cheering like normal people. I almost feel like I'm trying too hard when I give myself a neck cramp that lasts for days from headbanging. I'd just like, at least once, to feel scared of a show, rather than just entertained by the band on stage. I get the feeling that if the mood of the scenes were so wildly different from then and now, that the decrease in energy and craziness at a modern show would also have a negative effect on the energy the band puts out too. I mean are Slayer gonna feel like wild animals on stage if they're not surrounded by people who are turning into wild animals themselves just from listening to their music?

Unless I'm making too much of what you guys are putting out there.

Oh, and about the spitting on Tom Araya thing Fred mentioned. I thought that was just supposed to be a punk thing. Spitting in general, not just on Tom Araya.

FRED HALE SR. · 08-08-2014, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I gotta say I'm feeling kind of ambivalent towards the whole modern metal fan world. I'd have no place with a bunch of scary bikers, and would be far too terrified to get in a pit with them, and the antics I'm hearing seem like they would make me feel like kind of an odd man out pussy, but all of that just makes a modern metal show seem Disney-fied. I can relate to your average metal fan these days, metal/deathcore kids aside, but going to a show just doesn't have any real edge. Sure I can get in the pit, and it's always fun don't get me wrong, but it feels like a carnival ride. You pay for a ticket, you go in, you have some safe quasi-rebellion, and then you brag to your friends about how badass you are just because you got a bloody nose. And I kind of feel disappointed by the fan reactions too. I heard stories of crazy metal fans tearing out seats, completely trashing venues, and suspending themselves from balconies to form an inverted cross and yell "SLAYER!!!" long before I ever went to see a show, and when I finally get there it's mostly a bunch of people standing there and cheering like normal people. I almost feel like I'm trying too hard when I give myself a neck cramp that lasts for days from headbanging. I'd just like, at least once, to feel scared of a show, rather than just entertained by the band on stage. I get the feeling that if the mood of the scenes were so wildly different from then and now, that the decrease in energy and craziness at a modern show would also have a negative effect on the energy the band puts out too. I mean are Slayer gonna feel like wild animals on stage if they're not surrounded by people who are turning into wild animals themselves just from listening to their music?

Unless I'm making too much of what you guys are putting out there.

Oh, and about the spitting on Tom Araya thing Fred mentioned. I thought that was just supposed to be a punk thing. Spitting in general, not just on Tom Araya.

Dudes face looked like a glazed donut. It was very much a punk rock thing. Of all the thrash bands of the 80's Slayer was always the most punk rock leaning so it makes sense. I think people pay so much to go to shows now that they don't want to get kicked out. And also I think the drug element has ceased a bit with regard to the large amount of meth users at shows. Speed was king back then, so everyone being hopped up on the nose candy made for a bunch of psychos in a crowd. I'm sure there are some bands in smaller venues that still get crowds that mosh, but it will never be like it was then. At Redlands for the South Of Heaven tour there were fire pits shooting twenty feet high. Just say no to drugs kids.

Necromancer · 08-08-2014, 09:40 AM

I was always the one in the tie dye flower color t-shirt having drug-induced premonitions about the next coming of Beavis and Butthead, Kurt Cobain, and the arrival of grunge in the nineties.

Carpe Mortem · 08-08-2014, 03:03 PM

There's different crowds of people at shows. In general security has tightened because of the dangerous past of live music... all genres of live music... but there's still your aggressive wackos and your front of the stagers and your sitting at the bar-ists.

Some people go just for the feel of live music, some people go because they idolize the playing, some go for the wild time or to get laid. As it always has been, as it always will be.

Personally... I'm the chick in front who literally never stops headbanging or smacking the beat of the drum onto the stage while shockwaves of metal ravage my bones. And I ****in love it.

Wpnfire · 08-08-2014, 11:59 PM

Wow, this thread is one of the most informative threads I've seen on this forum. Thanks for sharing everyone-who-is-considerably-older-than-me. I appreciate you all sharing your (somewhat terrifying) stories.

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Originally Posted by Vanilla

Not going to lie, I love Def Leppard.

GTFO with that weak sauce. Don't get me wrong, Pour Some Sugar On Me has a pretty legendary drum beat and guitar riff, but as soon as this part rolls around..

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Pour some sugar on me
Ooh, in the name of love

I care **** all about the rest of the song. I'll take my metal black (heh heh, that was actually a good joke. Get it, it's like coffee heh heh.)

Engine · 08-09-2014, 12:44 AM

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 08-09-2014, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Wpnfire

Wow, this thread is one of the most informative threads I've seen on this forum. Thanks for sharing everyone-who-is-considerably-older-than-me. I appreciate you all sharing your (somewhat terrifying) stories.

GTFO with that weak sauce. Don't get me wrong, Pour Some Sugar On Me has a pretty legendary drum beat and guitar riff, but as soon as this part rolls around..

I care **** all about the rest of the song. I'll take my metal black (heh heh, that was actually a good joke. Get it, it's like coffee heh heh.)

That song is lame and way overrated. I'm into stuff like Hysteria and Love Bites, now that is a cool song. I don't care if it makes me lame tbh.

I know you love abbreviations so I'm sure you will say smh soon enough.

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Originally Posted by Engine

Lol.

08-08-2014, 03:03 PM	#26 (permalink)
Carpe Mortem Crusher of tiny Nords Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ugly Bag of Mostly Water Posts: 1,363	There's different crowds of people at shows. In general security has tightened because of the dangerous past of live music... all genres of live music... but there's still your aggressive wackos and your front of the stagers and your sitting at the bar-ists. Some people go just for the feel of live music, some people go because they idolize the playing, some go for the wild time or to get laid. As it always has been, as it always will be. Personally... I'm the chick in front who literally never stops headbanging or smacking the beat of the drum onto the stage while shockwaves of metal ravage my bones. And I **in love it. __________________ [SIG][/SIG] Mirth is King** Be Loving & Open With My Emotions

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Engine air quote Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: pollen & mold Posts: 3,108	__________________ Like an arrow, I was only passing through.

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Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	Huh, never really cared that much about them. I would've swore they existed during the 80s/MTV. My bad...

08-08-2014, 09:40 AM	#25 (permalink)
Necromancer Divination Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,655	I was always the one in the tie dye flower color t-shirt having drug-induced premonitions about the next coming of Beavis and Butthead, Kurt Cobain, and the arrival of grunge in the nineties.