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05-10-2014, 07:47 AM | #11 (permalink) | |
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''Extreme metal is a loosely defined umbrella term for a number of related heavy metal music subgenres that have developed since the early 1980s. The term usually refers to a more abrasive, harsher, underground, non-commercialized style or sound nearly always associated with genres like thrash metal, black metal, death metal, and doom metal.''-Wikipedia It's pretty much all of the more heavy/agresive, more ''extreme'' metal sub genres. |
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05-10-2014, 11:38 AM | #12 (permalink) |
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Thanks dude, except I would never refer to any doom, or a good number of black metal or thrash bands, as extreme metal. To expand on the point I was trying to make then forgot about... the word extreme, to me, means overbearingly intense **** thats fast and obnoxious s ****. That's why I don't fully understand the definition, like who the hell ever has referred to My Dying Bride as extreme metal? Or Judas Priest? I mean these are bands you could chill around at home listening to.
So extreme metal is fast, pounding, loud and in your face music IMO. It seems to me the actual definition is in reference to a non-mainstream production value, considering the chill and bearable subgenres it associated with, and I disagree with that definition. Production cannot be referred to as extreme or not extreme, I just personally think that's really lame.
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05-10-2014, 02:44 PM | #14 (permalink) | |
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For instance a lot of the bands Ninetales brought up I never thought of as extreme because their songs have melody, thus placing them, in my eyes, within a more proper genre.
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05-10-2014, 03:48 PM | #16 (permalink) |
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I have to agree with what some people have already said in that extreme Metal has always had its share of boring releases, but has also had its gems for each year as well. I also have to say I think extreme Metal over the past few years has been just fine, if not as good as it's ever been. Here's a list of some extreme Metal releases from over the past 5 or so years, which I think all have proven the genre's not in a decline.
Sigh - Scenes From Hell (2010) Hail Spirit Noir - Pneuma (2012) Wintersun - Time I (2012) Absu - Absu (2009) Mondstille - Seelenwund (2012) Gallowbraid - Ashen Eidolon (2010) Catuvolcus - Gergovia (2012) Klabautamann - Merkur (2009) Watain - Lawless Darkness (2010) Kalmah - Seventh Swamphony (2013) Behemoth - The Satanist (2014) Bran Barr - Sidh (2010) Bornholm - March For Glory and Revenge (2009) All of these albums prove to me extreme Metal has been doing just fine, and there's many more released in the last five years that cement my opinion even further. I believe the reason people say it's boring now but wasn't in the past isn't anything out of the ordinary. There's always someone who will say anything isn't as good as it used to be for whatever reason. I just usually either ignore it, or explain how I feel, and give them a counter argument. I don't think anyone who likes extreme Metal now should be worried by the naysayers, I know I'm not. As for people who've never liked extreme Metal. That's fine, but please don't give a reason that "it has no melody" because virtually all of the extreme Metal I've heard has had melody. It just may not have a common sort of melody, in a way that it may be more dissonant or less clear. If you give it some time those extreme Metal sounds could really grow on you, though you shouldn't force yourself either. But there's even a lot of extreme Metal out there with easy and catchy melodies. So don't make up stuff about a genre you may not have looked into much. |
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Because I'd consider Hardcore Punk a very important punk rock genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmgWNTsrr68. And just because a genre is heavier, doesn't mean it's ****ty music praised by teenagers. It's just an umbrella term man, to make it easy when talking about this type of metal instead of the more traditional type. You don't have to take it seriously, it's not an actual genre name. |
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05-11-2014, 06:22 AM | #18 (permalink) |
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@ Mythosofmetal: perhaps I should rephrase: I don't hear any melody in it. It's true some people may hear melody in birdsong, wind, a car engine or anything else, but that doesn't mean I do. You're right in that I have looked very little into this subgenre, but again check my journal for Metal Month (October 2013) and you'll see I gave it a good shot, and did not just put down every band. I tried but little of it appealed to me, though the odd one did.
I find it hard to find any melody in music that is played way way too fast to follow (for me) or gutteral or screamed vocals that seem to be just ranting a lot of the time (Morbid Angel/Slipknot/Possessed etc). Also I've had people far more into this music than I would ever be tell me "there doesn't always have to be melody", which presupposes they don't necessarily hear any in the music of some of the bands in this subgenre either...
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