Favorite type of metal (alternative, drum, funk, hardcore, punk)

The_Megatron · 01-09-2008, 02:02 AM

Limiting yourself to one of these categories is a bit hard seeing as most bands in reality mix several elements, but if I were to limit myself to one category I'd have to say Death metal.

the pagey · 01-09-2008, 11:43 AM

New here but I'm happy to see there isn't much genre bashing going on here! I voted thrash but generally metal is awesome. Bugs the crap outta me when hardcore metal fans knock nu-metal fans or emo fans etc. It's all metal and we all hear the general 'that metal music is " insert appropriate swear word here "' from so many ignorant people, why are metal fans knocking other metal fans? Sorry, rant over!

Muzak · 01-09-2008, 08:25 PM

except Nu Metal and Emo are not actual metal.

Clownbaby · 01-09-2008, 10:38 PM

emo doesn't even have the word metal in it LOL...why the hell are you even considering a type of metal then, I mean I could understand with nu-metal...but emo?? Come on...

the pagey · 01-10-2008, 05:59 PM

So, define metal. By define I mean a definition that everybody would agree with. Can't do it? You know that almost everyone has a different idea of what metal 'really' is and what it should sound like. To my mind nu-metal bands like Korn and Slipknot are as metal as Metallica or Slayer. Sure they are different but isn't different a good thing? Without change we'd all be listening to Jimi Hendrix or Deep Purple and thinking they were 'really heavy'! And the Emo tag? Doesn't it mean emotion? (Isn't it therefore a completely meaningless tag? Barry White was emotional!) But the bands who are given that tag like Finch or Funeral For A Friend can play good, hard hitting music. It isn't punk. It isn't rock. I'd call it metal. (BTW, I really don't consider bands like Limp Bizkit and their ilk to be metal, whoever lumped them into the nu-metal genre was obviously a closet boyzone fan!)

jackhammer · 01-10-2008, 07:10 PM

So Limp Bizkit are NOT metal but KORN are?. They both take influences from similar sources. Your argument has some good points but it is flawed.

Wayfarer · 01-10-2008, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by the pagey

Without change we'd all be listening to Jimi Hendrix or Deep Purple and thinking they were 'really heavy'!

Hendrix was heavy as fuck.

Muzak · 01-10-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by the pagey

So, define metal. By define I mean a definition that everybody would agree with. Can't do it? You know that almost everyone has a different idea of what metal 'really' is and what it should sound like. To my mind nu-metal bands like Korn and Slipknot are as metal as Metallica or Slayer. Sure they are different but isn't different a good thing? Without change we'd all be listening to Jimi Hendrix or Deep Purple and thinking they were 'really heavy'!

I don't think many are qualified to give a definition of metal, I know I am not. However with Nu Metal, it is easy to say what they are (or not) in order to see that they are not metal. Well they have strong influences in funk, hip hop, grunge, Mr Bungle (Korn apparently claims to use the "Mr Bungle Chord", alternative, and small metal tendencies (and I am not trying to pull and BS). So they took a few pointers from Pantera, then they made a rock based genre with the tag "metal" because of their dropped D tuning. It has stronger influences in grunge, rock, and hip hop and downtuned it to make the genre we see as Nu Metal. Also not only do they lack any metal style drumming, but they generally follow a rock, or groove rhythm, and lack in riffs that we can see as 'metal'.

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And the Emo tag? Doesn't it mean emotion? (Isn't it therefore a completely meaningless tag? Barry White was emotional!) But the bands who are given that tag like Finch or Funeral For A Friend can play good, hard hitting music. It isn't punk. It isn't rock. I'd call it metal.

It is a subgenre of Hardcore I believe. It is more rooted in punk rock and takes hardly and metal influences.

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(BTW, I really don't consider bands like Limp Bizkit and their ilk to be metal, whoever lumped them into the nu-metal genre was obviously a closet boyzone fan!)

They are Nu Metal.

riseagainstrocks · 01-12-2008, 02:06 PM

We have an education thread for this very goddamn arguement.

white_powered_zombie · 01-12-2008, 10:31 PM

oh I've already voted.
Anyone care to search the thread to see what i might of said i voted for

View Poll Results: Favorite type of metal?
Regular melodic metal	24	7.67%
Death metal	30	9.58%
Black metal	20	6.39%
Doom metal	11	3.51%
Goth metal	10	3.19%
Grindcore	9	2.88%
Industrial	20	6.39%
The New Wave Of British Heavy Metal	7	2.24%
Progressive metal	32	10.22%
Thrash	48	15.34%
Hard rock	28	8.95%
Metalcore	13	4.15%
Nu-metal	11	3.51%
Viking metal	8	2.56%
Power metal	14	4.47%
Rap metal	5	1.60%
Some other metal	23	7.35%
Voters: 313. You may not vote on this poll

01-10-2008, 07:10 PM	#216 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	So Limp Bizkit are NOT metal but KORN are?. They both take influences from similar sources. Your argument has some good points but it is flawed. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

01-12-2008, 02:06 PM	#219 (permalink)
riseagainstrocks Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: DC Posts: 3,320	We have an education thread for this very goddamn arguement. __________________ One note timeless, came out of nowhere...

01-09-2008, 02:02 AM	#211 (permalink)
The_Megatron Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 15	Limiting yourself to one of these categories is a bit hard seeing as most bands in reality mix several elements, but if I were to limit myself to one category I'd have to say Death metal.

01-09-2008, 11:43 AM	#212 (permalink)
the pagey Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	New here but I'm happy to see there isn't much genre bashing going on here! I voted thrash but generally metal is awesome. Bugs the crap outta me when hardcore metal fans knock nu-metal fans or emo fans etc. It's all metal and we all hear the general 'that metal music is " insert appropriate swear word here "' from so many ignorant people, why are metal fans knocking other metal fans? Sorry, rant over!

01-09-2008, 08:25 PM	#213 (permalink)
Muzak Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 1,050	except Nu Metal and Emo are not actual metal.

01-09-2008, 10:38 PM	#214 (permalink)
Clownbaby Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 106	emo doesn't even have the word metal in it LOL...why the hell are you even considering a type of metal then, I mean I could understand with nu-metal...but emo?? Come on...

01-10-2008, 05:59 PM	#215 (permalink)
the pagey Groupie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 5	So, define metal. By define I mean a definition that everybody would agree with. Can't do it? You know that almost everyone has a different idea of what metal 'really' is and what it should sound like. To my mind nu-metal bands like Korn and Slipknot are as metal as Metallica or Slayer. Sure they are different but isn't different a good thing? Without change we'd all be listening to Jimi Hendrix or Deep Purple and thinking they were 'really heavy'! And the Emo tag? Doesn't it mean emotion? (Isn't it therefore a completely meaningless tag? Barry White was emotional!) But the bands who are given that tag like Finch or Funeral For A Friend can play good, hard hitting music. It isn't punk. It isn't rock. I'd call it metal. (BTW, I really don't consider bands like Limp Bizkit and their ilk to be metal, whoever lumped them into the nu-metal genre was obviously a closet boyzone fan!)

01-12-2008, 10:31 PM	#220 (permalink)
white_powered_zombie Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Australia, Tasmania Posts: 106	oh I've already voted. Anyone care to search the thread to see what i might of said i voted for