Necromancer

I understand where you're coming from, its just that I always base major influences on the music itself, and not so much on personal motivation. So I guess your assumption is correct in that sense. Its been nice having this debat with you Francis. I'm sure you understand where I was coming from as well.

Dylstew

Big D And The Kids Table is a Third Wave Ska Punk band fronted by David McWane.
You know what was the biggest influence to him making music?
Iron Maiden.
You can't hear anything of that in his music, but it was a huge influence to him

That said, I can definitely hear a Velvet Underground Influence in The Stooges music, but not in David Bowie.

Urban Hat€monger ?

So although Bowie was playing Velvet Underground songs before anybody had heard of them and even played them in the UK before VU did themselves, wrote 2 songs about them and thanked them on the credits for Hunky Dory, Travelled to New York just to meet them and Warhol AND said in an interview that they were his biggest influence himself it can't be true because he doesn't sound like them.
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Rjinn

I don't get this either. You can't be influenced by an artist and have a completely different sound?

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Unknown Soldier

It's debatable but in general no, but there are startling exceptions where an artist like Dave Mustaine was highly influenced by Cat Stevens.

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Necromancer

I don't expect bands to sound exactly like one another to say they are influences, but I do look for vague simularities between the two. Usually influences are quite obvious and jumps right out at you.

One example I find with a lot of metal bands these days, is that its easy to hear a distinct Metallica influence with a lot of the new bands sound and style.

One of the more obvious and dominate influences I can think of as a good example, would be the influnce that Led Zeppelin has had on the sound & style of Soundgarden. Soundgarden doesn't sound exactly like Led Zeppelin, but instead they use the Led Zeppelin influence to enhance their own sound & style of heavy metal and grunge (with certain particular songs) anyway.

I always thought the common rule to being influenced by another band was somehow musically orientated. but I guess that doesn't pertain to the logic of everyone.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Not really, for example most of the original Acid House movement were inspired by the punk movement. Not as in sound but as in being inspired by it enough to go out & do something.

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Necromancer

I can understand that as well, because it affects the music directly.

Necromancer

I think one of the reasons Velvet Underground were such an influence on a lot of musicians is because, anyone that could play a three chord progression could learn all of Velvet Underground songs within a 5 minutes period.

Necromancer

That's a good post rostasi. At least you acknowledge the importance to the Association of Velvet Underground with Andy Warhol. It was Warhol who insisted on adding Nico to the band and on their album. (Warhol knew and partied with all of the major rockstars during the sixty's and seventy's).
I have come to the conclusion during this discussion that the Velvet Underground were major influences on the New York Dolls, via: CBGBs Manhattan, New York City.